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What will the bottomline be on this streetcar project?

Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:50 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:50 pm
From BR Business Report. 2.7 million for a study and counting.

LINK

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Another item of city-parish that will be delayed is the appropriation of $1 million in traffic impact fees that will help fund the environmental and planning phase of the proposed Nicholson corridor streetcar. The city-parish received a $1.76 million federal TIGER grant earlier this year to begin planning for the streetcar along three miles of Nicholson Drive between the LSU campus and downtown, and it is required to put up $1 million in matching funds.
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:52 pm to
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2.7 million for a study and counting.


27 million
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 4:57 pm to
Baton Rouge will keep falling farther behind as a city because Kip Holden, and other politicians just like him, keep spending tax dollars on neat ideas. Rather than focusing on infrastructure and education.

I recently read an article about one of the corporate offices in Baton Rouge that are planning a move specifically because they want a city with more to offer.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:08 pm to
Holden has vastly improved Baton Rouge you fool
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

I recently read an article about one of the corporate offices in Baton Rouge that are planning a move specifically because they want a city with more to offer.



Which company?
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:18 pm to
Albemarle
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

What will the bottomline be on this streetcar project?


What is the distance of the line? Streetcar or light rail can cost from $50-$100milion/mile vs $10-25million/mile (see 2nd link). If Baton Rouge they would say f**k the streetcar and put in a bus rapid transit (BRT)line instead. BRT is cheaper, spurs development better, be expanded cheaper, adjust to demand better, and can always be upgraded to light rail or a street car in the future if demand is there. Since we don't know what the demand will be I think BR would be better building a BRT line and save the money. However, Louisiana doesn't know how to manage money so I expect there to be $100M/mile streetcar that only gets used on gamedays.
quote:

Bus rapid transit, in which buses in dedicated lanes perform like rail lines, can not only spur development, but can do so far more efficiently than light rail and streetcars, according to a study due out later this month from the Institute for Transportation and Development Policy.

“Both BRT and LRT can leverage many times more development investment than they cost. Now we can say that for sure,” according to the institute’s director for the U.S. and Africa, Annie Weinstock, who previewed the findings at a Metropolitan Planning Council Roundtable in Chicago last week.

“Per dollar of transit investment, and under similar conditions, BRT can leverage more (development) investment than LRT or streetcars.”
LINK
BRT 50% than streetcar in Arlington Va
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18847 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

Baton Rouge will keep falling farther behind as a city because Kip Holden, and other politicians just like him, keep spending tax dollars on neat ideas. Rather than focusing on infrastructure and education.

Baton Rouge has made a ton of strides in the right direction over the past 10 years. This stuff doesn't happen overnight.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:29 pm to
I won't ride the bus, but I'd ride a streetcar

Especially for gamedays
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

I won't ride the bus, but I'd ride a streetcar

Especially for gamedays


Cleveland's Healthline BRT beats the pants off of NOLA's or any other city's streetcars.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:33 pm to
The only thing more fun than a BR Loop article is a BR monorail article.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:34 pm to
Cool, it will still have the perception of a bus. In Louisiana, a streetcar would have more demand

Your post really has nothing to do with mine
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 6:35 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29155 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

bus rapid transit (BRT)


The South is plagued with the notion that buses are for poors and blacks. Light rail and streetcars are sexy. Buses aren't. I agree with you about BRT. It is the better option in most cases.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

The Metro Council adjourned early on Wednesday, just 40 minutes after calling the meeting to order, because too few members were present to make up a quorum.


I'm an outsider, but that is just embarrassing. How the frock does that happen?
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 6:41 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29155 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:41 pm to
Because the BR city council is terrible. Always has been.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

he Metro Council adjourned early on Wednesday, just 40 minutes after calling the meeting to order, because too few members were present to make up a quorum.


I'm an outsider, but that is just embarrassing. How the frock does that happen?


Probably stuck in traffic
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:00 pm to
What goes on in that room would rival American Idol's ratings if put on TV. Same goes for pretty much anything political in Louisiana
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130296 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Probably stuck in traffic

One of them was definitely driving in from somewhere.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41669 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 7:14 pm to
Three miles per the quote above.

Biggest question I have is whether or not the demand justifies the expense. How many people will use the line from LSU to downtown BR on a regular basis?
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