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re: What was the country’s reaction to the 1993 Waco siege when that was going on?

Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281927 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:17 pm to
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I mean, he was doing wicked things with kids. It’s a correct assumption.


The ATF wasn't there to help children. They believed Koresh had illegal weapons.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68160 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:17 pm to
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For most people old enough to remember it well the Branch Davidians is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear anything about Waco.


Or how the Government was at fault
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5348 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:22 pm to
Not much reaction. Media said they were molesting children so that pretty much excused the government action. Years later information leaked that that was probably not true and the action was seen in a much harsher light.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18451 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:32 pm to
I was a teenager at the time and it was on the news constantly with them giving live shots of the siege. Remember, the siege went on for weeks before gunfire and the fire broke out. I remember the government brining in loud speakers and playing loud music to annoy them. Then gunfire broke out one day, and the next thing you saw was government tanks rolling in and demolishing the compound (with people still inside).

As for public opinion, I can only give my perspective living in a red state and it probably isn't accurate for Portland, San Fran or NYC. I think opinions were mixed. A minority of people didn't care if they were shut down and were behind the government, but I think most people felt it was government overreach (though most everyone agreed they were nuts). Remember, Clinton just came into office the year before and people were already suspicious of him since he was the first Dem president since 1980 (and the last Dem president didn't go so well).

I remember most conservatives saw Janet Reno (the AG) as the second coming of Stalin. The World Wide Web was invented in 1991, so very few people were online in 1993, but I remember seeing memes and cartoons in magazines making fun of Reno. People joked that she was a lesbo or a trans man. (Back then you could still make jokes about trans people without being canceled).

That time period was a period when "militias" were the big bogeyman of the left. They would go up to Michigan and show video of like 4 or 5 guys running around in camo shooting AR's. And they would try to portray them as some massive danger to society. Of course, when Tim McVeigh bombed the OKC building in 1994, this only added fuel to the fire (since he had some loose connections with some groups in Arizona, I believe it was). It came out later that McVeigh bombed OKC in retaliation for Waco (this wasn't known at first). In fact, everyone thought OKC was the work of Muslims and fully expected Muslims to get arrested. When two white dudes were arrested it was a surprise, I think.
This post was edited on 3/26/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
188932 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Government agencies fumbled the operation and it got people/kids killed AND Koresh was a diabolical cult leader/pedophile actively ruining people’s lives.

bullseye , youre a better shot than the Feds
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75536 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:42 pm to
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We were told that the Branch Davidians were child molesting extremists who set fire to the compound themselves.


That might be true.

But the government and MSM lie so much that I can never take what they say at face value.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
26062 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 1:43 pm to
I didn’t understand it at the time why McVeigh bombed OKC in retaliation until I found out that Bob Ricks was working out of the FBI building in that was bombed in 1995. I may be wrong on if it was Bob Ricks. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
4116 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:07 pm to
Where I live I think people just dismissed them as a cult and said, “who cares. No more brainwashed people.”
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17041 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:15 pm to
Waco (What a cook out)
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6217 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:26 pm to
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The government really pushed him to do a horrible thing


You are insane
Posted by BoogalooCopperpot
In my own head
Member since Jan 2021
458 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:28 pm to
Most people prob have zero fricks and didn’t know about it; no smart phones then
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83111 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:32 pm to
people were probably a lot more aware of current events back then than you’d imagine, maybe just not so hip about TikTok, twitter, IG, or some of the other really important things
Posted by BoogalooCopperpot
In my own head
Member since Jan 2021
458 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:39 pm to
We need more people like that than these days.

ATF/FBI etc would prob all be charged with murder in woke 2023. (Maybe not though, Texas is Texas.)
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9598 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:41 pm to
In April 1993 I flew to New York City to be on The Maury Povich Show with Ellie Nesler via satellite.

I was living in Irving, TX attending North Lake College. I told everyone I was going to be on Maury.

Well the day Maury aired was the day they uses the tanks and burned the compound down.

Since Dallas is not far from Waco it was LIVE News all day...Maury did not air that day in DFW.

My mother, living in Biloxi, had to mail me the tape so I could watch my appearance.

We all thought Koresh was a nut job...and I still do. But the Government made a shite storm for no reason.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68191 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 2:43 pm to
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Where I live I think people just dismissed them as a cult and said, “who cares. No more brainwashed people.”


This seemed to be the general sentiment in my parts as well.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25642 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:12 pm to
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For most people old enough to remember it well the Branch Davidians is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear anything about Waco.



yep.... not Baylor, not Chip and Joanna, but David Koresh and the Branch Davidians...
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15946 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:15 pm to
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I mean, he was doing wicked things with kids. It’s a correct assumption.



I don't doubt this.

What I do doubt is helping kids having wicked things done to them by burning them alive
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
6525 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:39 pm to
We didn’t know how corrupt the government three letter agencies were at the time. Now we know.

Just confirmed they are murderers.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9788 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:51 pm to
When this was going on, I learned that my boss really, really liked to argue. Aggressively. Never gave him the opportunity again after that. He was a GD Yankee.
Posted by Papoo63
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2022
237 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:58 pm to
Played ball with ATF Agent Conway Lebleau. He killed while on the roof...

Koresh was an avid runner...Feds could have grabbed him at anytime outside of the compound but wanted to prove a point bout guns...
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