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re: What was air travel like before 9/11?

Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:30 pm to
Maybe they still do it and I just haven't been on a flight that does it, but in-flight movies where they'd play on a screen and they'd offer you headphones to plug into the armrest if you wanted the sound for it. Pretty sure you could also listen to music via the armrest headphone jack. Guessing those went away when smartphones and tables got so ubiquitous.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:31 pm to
That's still around, but most routes long enough to do that will just have a screen on the back of each seat and you can pick your own movie.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:31 pm to
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they'd offer you headphones to plug into the armrest if you wanted the sound for it. Pretty sure you could also listen to music via the armrest headphone jack


still have that, but new and improved(on newer jets)
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:34 pm to
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What was air travel like before 9/11?


Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:35 pm to
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What was air travel like before 9/11?


yes, we had to do a lot of flying on instruments
Posted by Hankg
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:35 pm to
My first flight was from BR to South Dakota for a turkey hunt in the early 90’s. The “rule” was couldn’t have ammunition in same case as the gun. So they had me put the shotgun shells in my carryon bag. ??
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:38 pm to
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quote:
they'd offer you headphones to plug into the armrest if you wanted the sound for it. Pretty sure you could also listen to music via the armrest headphone jack


still have that, but new and improved(on newer jets)


The headphones that were basically just tubes that plugged into little speakers in the arm rests and physically channeled sound into your ears rather than electronically.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:40 pm to
A lot of these probably have been said by now, but...

1) You know the security at places like the Superdome, the crackhead min wage temp employees who check your bags and you walk through the metal detector? That was who was in charge of airport security.

2) You didn't need a ticket to go to the gate. I remember going with my mom to meet my dad at the gate when he would get home from a trip, and my mom would take me an hour of so early so I could watch other planes land and taxi to the terminal.

3) Security scanning of checked luggage basically was having a dog walk alongside a pile of bags sniffing for stuff.

4) Not related to 9/11, but I remember when Southwest used to be first come, first serve. People would sit in the lines for an hour or more to get on the plane first.

5) Also not really related to 9/11, but no online check-in, and I still remember paper tickets.

6) As a kid, being able to go see the cockpit while in flight.

7) The flight engineer - back before so much of the plane was automated... he had an important role in making sure stuff worked properly.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 4:44 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:43 pm to
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) You know the security at places like the Superdome, the crackhead min wage temp employees who check your bags and you walk through the metal detector? That was who was in charge of airport security.



TSA isn't much of an improvement. They just gave them more power.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:46 pm to
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The headphones that were basically just tubes that plugged into little speakers in the arm rests and physically channeled sound into your ears rather than electronically.


yeah, remember that, the ones they hand out now are real(lower end,) ear buds
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:46 pm to
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These were a life savor, but i remember a lot of times the curbsides desks weren't staffed so it was a relief when they were


At MSY, I feel like they were only staffed from like 11 am to 2 pm, Monday - Friday.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:47 pm to
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The flight engineer


that was my entry level position
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:49 pm to
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Pretty much. And family members/friends could wait at the gate for you to arrive or say goodbye at the gate.


Yep. I worked in the Shreveport airport in the year 2000. As an airline employee we would conduct security checks where we would try to get fake weapons through security. I used to get guns, knives, and even a grenade through in my sock. I also could take naps on the baggage belt in the back between flights. To say the security was lax would be a huge understatement.
Posted by SanFranTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2003
4897 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:50 pm to
(Not necessarily specific to 9/11 but...)

also airlines didn't charge you for checking bags so not as many carry-ons. Loading was more efficient.

But Also, until the internet and ticketing sites were popular, it was a bit of a hassle to get tickets without using a travel agent. Flights and airports were less crowded and much less riff raff.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:51 pm to
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- how in the world they hired and trained all the TSA agents in a two week period was impressive.


They nationalized an entire industry overnight. They basically went to every airport concession that provided screening, and said, you work for the feds now. They hired every single person that was working for a security concession.

Over time, of course, they weeded some out, hired new people, etc.

I flew about a month after 9/11. The security people were still in their old uniforms, with basically paper nametags identifying them as federal agents.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:52 pm to
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TSA isn't much of an improvement. They just gave them more power.


And they dress a bit better.

I get your point, though.
Posted by Bunsbert Montcroff
Phoenix AZ / Boise ID
Member since Jan 2008
5500 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:54 pm to
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No one cared what liquids you packed in your carryon.

the restrictions on liquids came a few years later.

after 9/11 you could still bring drinks, water bottles, etc. there was a scare regarding liquid explosives in 2006, and that's when the liquid restrictions came into affect in the US.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:55 pm to
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But Also, until the internet and ticketing sites were popular, it was a bit of a hassle to get tickets without using a travel agent. Flights and airports were less crowded and much less riff raff.


Remember when the airlines used to have ticket offices outside the airport?

Delta, Continental, Pan Am, etc, all used to have ticket offices in downtown NOLA.

When I was in high school, I once worked a summer helping out at a law firm, and one of the things I used to do was take a partner's credit card and walk to the ticket office to buy him a ticket.

quote:

Flights and airports were less crowded and much less riff raff.



De-regulation brought down prices and made airplanes and airports crowded.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4415 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:59 pm to
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Went through security to board. I remember my backpack full of toys getting inspected (as a kid!) because it looked weird in the metal detector.


Yeah, there were security checks, but they were handled by private companies. Depending on which airport (and maybe even which airline), my experience is that they were nasty, stupid, rude people who didn't give a shite about you, security or anything else. Think DMV but less empathetic.

In the early days of TSA screeners, the professionalism went WAY up. I guess it's regressed since then, but at the time it was night and day better.
Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2547 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 5:00 pm to
All this does is remind me to say f*** Bin Laden and al qaeda.
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