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re: What the reality of life in Afghanistan is today for an Afghan Christian

Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:33 am to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:33 am to
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This statement reflects an ignorance of the history of Christianity.

Don’t go into crazyville here. It is vastly more dangerous to be a Christian in an Islamic state than to be a Muslim in a majority Christian nation.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:34 am to
Lol
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:34 am to
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we either leave or we don’t.


that’s not the point. you’re deflecting now
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:35 am to
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Don’t go into crazyville here. It is vastly more dangerous to be a Christian in an Islamic state than to be a muslin in a majority Christian nation.


just bookmarking this for the next time an oppression in America conversation pops up. Thanks
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23663 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:38 am to
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that’s not the point. you’re deflecting now

It isn’t deflecting. Your talking about what we can control with 2,500 troops and bombing. That isn’t leaving. We’ve delayed our leaving by almost 6 months. That isn’t overnight. Everyone knew we were leaving.

All this right wing yapping is deflection from the objective fact that the Afghan government dissolved, it’s leaders fled, it’s security forces abandoned and the only way the US or anyone else could control the situation is to stay and fight.

And so now right wingers are bitching that we aren’t staying and fighting.

And I’m calling you out.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:40 am to
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Well, Klark, we either leave or we don’t.


How many fricking times do you have to be told it's not that we left, but how we left?

Are you incapable of even the most basic ability to understand context?

This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23663 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:41 am to
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just bookmarking this for the next time an oppression in America conversation pops up. Thanks
tue right wingers are downvoting me, so apparently they disagree with what I said.

But it is objectively true that Islamic states do not allow free religion. There are a lot of good Lebanese Christians in Louisiana. We’re better for them having moved here, and so are they.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:43 am to
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That isn’t overnight. Everyone knew we were leaving.


We literally left overnight without telling anyone you disingenuous frick.

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And so now right wingers are bitching that we aren’t staying and fighting.


This is utter horseshite and you know it. The issue is we pulled our troops out before our civilians, and left a shitton of military equipment there.

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And so now right wingers are bitching that we aren’t staying and fighting.



Who here is saying that? fricking quote them jackass.

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And I’m calling you out.


You are so utterly full of shite. You really are a zealot aren't you?

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58554 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:43 am to
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Don’t go into crazyville here. It is vastly more dangerous to be a Christian in an Islamic state than to be a Muslim in a majority Christian nation.


Sure, but that matters little for the argument I was making.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23663 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:46 am to
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How many fricking times do you have to be told it's not that we left, but how we left?

All I’m seeing written here is that we should have not actually left. Some right wingers talk about how well things were going with a smaller deployment and others are talking about air support. Neither is “leaving.”

Some talk about “sudden,” but the objective truth is that Trump signed a deal to turn the country over to the Taliban in May. It’s August. Sounds like we held off a little longer.

And if you dispute what Trump actually did, if he wasn’t turning the country over to the Taliban, why the hell did he sign the deal DIRECTLY WITH THE TALIBAN! He didn’t sign the deal with the Afghan government or its security force leader. He signed the deal with the Taliban. Trump acknowledged the Taliban as the party otherwise in control of the country.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66713 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:47 am to
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And I’m calling you out.


fisticuffs? or that over politicized mumbo jumbo you posted?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:48 am to
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And if you dispute what Trump actually did, if he wasn’t turning the country over to the Taliban, why the hell did he sign the deal DIRECTLY WITH THE TALIBAN! He didn’t sign the deal with the Afghan government or its security force leader. He signed the deal with the Taliban. Trump acknowledged the Taliban as the party otherwise in control of the country.


What the frick does this have to do with the complete and utter failure that is occurring right now?

Did Trump mandate we remove our military in the dead of night without telling our allies, *before* we evacuated civilians?

Did Trump mandate the President disappear for days at a time while American citizens were unable to be evacuated?

Did Trump mandate that the US military not be allowed to go outside the wire to rescue citizens while other NATO countries were doing it the entire time?





This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:48 am to
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All I’m seeing written here is that we should have not actually left.

That's because you have the reading comprehension skills of a first grader
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:49 am to
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Are you incapable of even the most basic ability to understand context?


Well that's the hallmark characteristic of a liberal, so...
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:50 am to
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Well that's the hallmark characteristic of a liberal, so...


There's literally nothing a democrat can do that that idiot won't defend to the death
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66713 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:52 am to
i feel like i’m debating a brick wall. a brick wall that gets angrier and more irrational with each post
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50349 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:53 am to
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Your suggestion is that Biden should have battled the Taliban for future control of Afghanistan.


Nope. Nothing I have said would ever lead anyone capable of logical thought to come to this conclusion. My suggestion is that we bomb them into submission, like Trump did. Not battle them. You're either being obtuse, or you're an idiot.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:54 am to
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i feel like i’m debating a brick wall.

At least a brick wall serves a purpose unlike like that moron
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58554 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:55 am to
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My suggestion is that we bomb them into submission, like Trump did.


Trump didn't do this.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26967 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:55 am to
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Christians, especially the white conservative ones, are responsible for everything evil in the world


Yep. We were some assholes. About 4-7 centuries ago.

Now. Not so much. We maybe racist still. But just a little bit. Nobody’s throwing black folks off cliffs for “practicing “ their blackness.

Here we wail about micro-aggressions. What’s an Afghanistan micro aggression? Gang raping but not killing an infidel woman??
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