re: What is your true opinion on anti-vaxxing/anti-vaxxers? *Pre-COVID edition

How about vaccinating your kid you a-hole

The overwhelming ignorance displayed in this thread, which exists in both the vax/anti vax camps, compels my response and I can more than defend, first hand, my position, while also providing an education to the vast majority of obviously younger posters herein, who apparently have no have reasonable historical knowledge of such matters.


"fool, foolish, idiot, idiotic, selfish, a-hole, blind, fricking crazy, nuts, public menace, moron, dangerous, stupid, bat shite crazy, delusion(al), dumb arse, bioterrorist, dumb fricker, and pro-plague"...WOW!!! Ready to get some education youngsters? Then strap yourself in.

1)Do you really think that vaccinations can entirely protect your child? Have you held your only child, a 5 year old daughter who had never been sick a day, while she died, 24 hours after returning from Disney World after contracting a virus that not even CDC could identify? I HAVE! And she was vaccinated.

2)Have you held your infant son while he experienced grand mal seizures on one side of his body for 24 hours beginning 45 minutes after receiving a combo vaccination? I HAVE! He is now age 22 and is profoundly autistic. While I will not state that the vaccination "caused" his autism, I will emphatically state that the vaccination caused a severe traumatic neurological event to one side of my infant son's brain.

3)Have you any knowledge of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund, a 1996 Federal mandate which required that a portion of the fee for all vaccinations be held by the Federal government for the payment of vaccine related injuries? Do you think that the Federal government knew a problem existed? The fund was so overwhelmed it became insolvent quickly and limited claim payments to only those who could clearly prove, via documented evidence, that the vaccination had effectively made the child into a "vegetable".

4)Do you think that the vaccination schedule/protocol has always been the same as currently? Go research it. You will find that several changes were made at a single time. Do you think the government knew a problem existed?

5)Conspiracy? Let's just say that, at least for a period of time, a convenient circular protection existed covering government, pharma, and the physicians where none faced any culpability.

I do take great offense at the vitriolic labeling by persons who have extremely limited to nonexistent knowledge of the subject matter. I am a widower and single parent, and truly pray that none of you experience any of the things which I have. Our other children were educated on the potential risks and benefits and allowed to make an informed decision at an age appropriate level.

Perhaps none of us knows quite as much as we think we do.

Did not say that. She was fully immunized and died from an unidentified virus.

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Did not say that. She was fully immunized and died from an unidentified virus.

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Which vaccines do not protect against.... sorry for your loss, but it is by no means an argument against vaccinations.

Whatever dude. Sorry for your loss. But vaccines are not the cause.

Educate yourself, you don’t sound very educated in your post.


Of course the schedule is different now BECAUSE MORE VACCINES EXIST.

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Educate yourself, you don’t sound very educated in your post.

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I pity people like this to be honest, and I think even I’m susceptible to this given a certain level of trauma. People who have gone through traumatic experiences think they’re a bigger expert than the physicians that studied for thousands of hours. They see their kid dying, relive all the wonderful hours with them, and the doctor doesn’t break down like they do. This is a very human response, but they are wrong and let trauma cloud their judgement. I feel for him, but he is wrong.

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Of course the schedule is different now BECAUSE MORE VACCINES EXIST.

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Yeah, no shite. I hope my kid is on a different schedule as I was, because if he isn’t, I’ll know I’ve trusted him with a stubborn quack that hasn’t bothered to learn anything since the 1970s. That is not the type of doctor you want treating you.

There is a legitimate argument that vaccines are the most important human development ever. It's up there with written language and fire in terms of importance and the number of lives that it has saved and enabled.

Anti-vaxxers are the worst of the worst anti-intellectualism. Their position is based on no coherent, logical thought or evidence. These are the people that make the world a much worse place to live in than it has to be.

I will provide a response to you in a while, as I currently have a more important obligation.

I greatly anticipate it. I’m really not trying to come across as an a-hole here, but 99% of society sees it as a direct assault to their kids. I am sincere when I say sorry for your losses, but I don’t think it excuses putting other children and society at large at risk.