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re: What is your opinion on reintroduction of predators like wolves in the United States?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:40 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:40 am to GreatLakesTiger24
CWD has cervid rearrangement at the top of the naughty list. Its part of the argument for predator reintroduction - eat more deer and elk to prevent the spread of CWD. If we kill all the deer, there will be no CWD to kill the deer. Its for their own good. Can't let the filthy 2 legged red voting predators deal with it, that would make people happy and happy rednecks is a big time no-no.
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:45 am to Bison
Name checks out
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:53 am to grizzlylongcut
What is an acceptable level of ecstasy?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 9:55 am to Bison
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Bison
quote:existential threat?
What is your opinion on reintroduction of predators like wolves in the United States?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:13 am to Bison
People who are afraid of wolves being reintroduced into the wild are arguably the biggest pussies on this planet.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:18 am to Robin Masters
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Personally I rather enjoy walking to my truck at 5:30am with the confidence I’m not being stalked as breakfast. But I’m weird that way. I’ve found most people who advocate for releasing apex predators back into the environment don’t live anywhere near the aforementioned “environment”.
Well you would be the first person killed by a wolf in the lower 48 states since 1989. That one was when someone's "pet wolf" bit one of her owners.
The previous death before that? 1948. When a woman died of rabies from a wolf bite.
Some of you dumbasses are hilarious. Releasing a few wolves in the wild is not going to create this mass amount of wolves out stalking humans. You are more than likely going to scare them off if you come even remotely close to one. Are you really that big of a pussy?
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 10:58 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:19 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:very easy to say from the south/the city or suburbs
People who are afraid of wolves being reintroduced into the wild are arguably the biggest pussies on this planet.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:20 am to Bison
WHEN’S THE LAST TIME YOU SAW A DAMN BEAR IN SCRANTON?
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 10:22 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:24 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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very easy to say from the south/the city or suburbs
No, it's very easy for pretty much anybody in the world to say.
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“In Europe and North America we only found evidence for 12 attacks (with 14 victims) of which two (both in North America, Alaska and Canada) were fatal, across a period of 18 years. Considering that there are close to 60,000 wolves in North America and 15,000 in Europe, all sharing space with hundreds of millions of people, it is apparent that the risks associated with a wolf attack are above zero, but far too low to calculate.”
The two packs reintroduced into he wild isn't gong to start some mass wolf attack trend.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:25 am to Bison
Make them super wolves, what could possibly go wrong?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:27 am to Bison
You're getting hated on OP, but I agree with you. 
Maybe ranchers can buy more pissed off donkeys or bigger dogs to defend their herd. Maybe they can sit out there or pay people all day to watch over the herd. Not taxpayer's problems they can't do their jobs correctly.
Maybe ranchers can buy more pissed off donkeys or bigger dogs to defend their herd. Maybe they can sit out there or pay people all day to watch over the herd. Not taxpayer's problems they can't do their jobs correctly.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:32 am to Lonnie Utah
Well put.
My only thing against predator reintroduction is that once the population is established and numbers begin to exceed the target population amount, the animal rights activists make it damn hard for the states to implement a hunting season or any sort of lethal population control. So it ends up where big game tag allocations get reduced to offset what's being killed by the growing wolf population.
My only thing against predator reintroduction is that once the population is established and numbers begin to exceed the target population amount, the animal rights activists make it damn hard for the states to implement a hunting season or any sort of lethal population control. So it ends up where big game tag allocations get reduced to offset what's being killed by the growing wolf population.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:37 am to Lonnie Utah
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I'm a trump voting republican, but as an Ecologist by training, this is one area where I lean a little more to the left
Conservation and protection of species is no longer on the footprint of the left. Left only cares about killing jobs, raising taxes, for Green energy, but in no way, anything to do with helping the actual environment.
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The wolves have moved the elk higher into the mountains making the chance of success much lower for many of these guided hunts. Many clients pay five figures and up to these outfitters and they are less willing to do this in their chance of success are diminished.
Yeah, wolves were here for around 700,000 years. Sorry, don't care that some wealthy "hunters" have to work harder alongside their guides because of wolves.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:42 am to AwgustaDawg
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Man and Wolves have NEVER peacefully co-existed in the same environment.
You mean like they are right now? There are 80,000 grey wolves in North America right now. People are acting like the few being reintroduced are going to be some game changer with how wolves are co-existing with mankind. There's a reason you literally never hear about there being an issue with wolves is because they are co-existing. Alaska, Montana, Wisconsin, Michigan, Wyoming, and Minnesota all have a healthy population of wolves and are co-existing. quote:
There is a reason wolves have been domesticated rarely in the history of mankind. It is pretty common to see lions and grizzly bears performing tricks for treats and has been for a LONG time....it is highly unusual to see a real wolf, not a wolf hybrid, doing ANYTHING a human demands it do....wolves simply do not bend to the will of man and never have.
Wait, you think the proof that wolves are an problem for man is because they can't be used in a circus? You think lions and grizzlies in the wild are bending to the will of man? Wolves aren't and they aren't supposed to. None of the animals you listed are supposed to.
Me and you have always had good conversations on here and the H&G board but I don't know if I've ever seen a more ridiculous post. People are legitimately out of touch with this subject.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:52 am to Mushroom1968
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Yeah, wolves were here for around 700,000 years.
Way back before a bunch of fricking people started hacking up all the habitat, moving into cities and ski resorts, and bitching about people hunting on their hiking trails.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:51 am to Bison
It’s worked out well for Yellowstone
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:07 pm to Bison
I'm for it.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:15 pm to Mushroom1968
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You're getting hated on OP, but I agree with you.
Did you read all of the OP? It was an attempt to shot on the oil and gas industry
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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How about we reintroduced elk and bison to their full native range?
The ranchers also have an absolute shite fit whenever anybody tries bison reintroduction. Competition for grazing land and they claim bison spread brucellosis to the cattle.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:38 pm to Jim Rockford
Western ranchers come off incredibly whiny, and I’m not sympathetic to them at all but you may feel differently if you have a different perspective on public land in the west.
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