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re: What is time?

Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 6:57 pm to
Drinking or smoking tonight, DTG?
Posted by QuietTiger
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:00 pm to
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Time is measured in how you spend it, not by the tyranny of the ticking clock.


I can roll with this.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:02 pm to
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Time is just the progression of existence.


Right, which inevitably leads into the question of what is existence and why does it progress (in one direction)? Something is happening, what? And I guess more importantly, why?

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We measure it via our planet’s relationship with the sun and moon to apply standards.


Nah, there are way more precise ways to measure it. Currently it’s measured via the oscillation of atoms.

You do raise an interesting point though, because we need to utilize something else and it’s change from moment to moment in order to even attempt to define the very concept. So what if all stars burn out, the universe experiences a heat death, no more movement of atoms. Does time still exist? With nothing to determine one moment to the next, does time end?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:02 pm to
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Drinking or smoking tonight, DTG?




Naw baw I’ve got my thinking cap on tonight.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Houma Sapien
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:07 pm to
depending on your perspective
a constraint or an opportunity
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:07 pm to
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the question of what is existence and why does it progress (in one direction)? Something is happening, what?
“The first time machine, gentlemen,” Professor Johnson proudly informed his two colleagues. “True, it is a small-scale experimental model. It will operate only on objects weighing less than three pounds, five ounces and for distances into the past and future of twelve minutes or less. But it works.”

The small-scale model looked like a small scale—a postage scale—except for two dials in the part under the platform.

Professor Johnson held up a small metal cube. “Our experimental object,” he said, “is a brass cube weighing one pound, two point three ounces. First, I shall send it five minutes into the future.”

He leaned forward and set one of the dials on the time machine. “Look at your watches,” he said.

They looked at their watches. Professor Johnson placed the cube gently on the machine’s platform. It vanished.

Five minutes later, to the second, it reappeared.

Professor Johnson picked it up. “Now five minutes into the past.” He set the other dial. Holding the cube in his hand he looked at his watch. “It is six minutes before three o’clock. I shall now activate the mechanism—by placing the cube on the platform—at exactly three o’clock. Therefore, the cube should, at five minutes before three, vanish from my hand and appear on the platform, five minutes before I place it there.”

“How can you place it there, then?” asked one of his colleagues.

“It will, as my hand approaches, vanish from the platform and appear in my hand to be placed there. Three o’clock. Notice, please.”

The cube vanished from his hand.

It appeared on the platform of the time machine.

“See? Five minutes before I shall place it there, it is there!”

His other colleague frowned at the cube. “But,” he said, “what if, now that it has already appeared five minutes before you place it there, you should change your mind about doing so and not place it there at three o’clock? Wouldn’t there be a paradox of some sort involved?”

“An interesting idea,” Professor Johnson said. “I had not thought of it, and it will be interesting to try. Very well, I shall not …”

There was no paradox at all. The cube remained.

But the entire rest of the Universe, professors and all, vanished.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:07 pm to
Does anybody really know what time is?
Does anybody really care?
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:09 pm to
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the indefinite continued progress of existence and events in the past, present, and future regarded as a whole


It's this but measured in relation to something else.

As we know, gravity can distort time.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:10 pm to
Interesting article about a physicist trying to tackle it: LINK

Entropy is just a measure of how disorderly things are. And it tends to grow. That's the second law of thermodynamics: Entropy goes up with time, things become more disorderly. So, if you neatly stack papers on your desk, and you walk away, you're not surprised they turn into a mess. You'd be very surprised if a mess turned into neatly stacked papers. That's entropy and the arrow of time. Entropy goes up as it becomes messier.

So, Boltzmann understood that and he explained how entropy is related to the arrow of time. But there's a missing piece to his explanation, which is, why was the entropy ever low to begin with? Why were the papers neatly stacked in the universe? Basically, our observable universe begins around 13.7 billion years ago in a state of exquisite order, exquisitely low entropy. It's like the universe is a wind-up toy that has been sort of puttering along for the last 13.7 billion years and will eventually wind down to nothing. But why was it ever wound up in the first place? Why was it in such a weird low-entropy unusual state?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:10 pm to
Professor Jones had been working on time theory for many years.

"And I have found the key equation," he told his daughter one day. "Time is a field. This machine I have made can manipulate, even reverse, that field."

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Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:15 pm to
Need to read that
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:17 pm to
Man: "God, is it true that a penny to you, is worth a million dollars to us?"

God: "Yes".

Man: "God, is it also true that a second to you is a million years to us?"

God:"Yes".

Man:" Can I have a penny?"

God:" Yes, Just give me a second."
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153934 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Need to read that
that read to need
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:24 pm to
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What is time?


Allow me to introduce you:

Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:47 pm to
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Naw baw I’ve got my thinking cap on tonight.


Ha! Well played. I am taking my thinking cap off for the evening (not that there is much of a difference). Be well, man!
Posted by Braveheart11
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:49 pm to
Smoked a solid blunt, huh?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:51 pm to
Time doesn’t exist. It is man-made concept constructed around the counting of repetitious events. The universe is older than the solar system we reside in, yet we refer to the beginning of the universe is terms of Earthly revolutions round the Sun. Neither of which existed then. When the Earth and Sun cease to exist, but the Universe continues ad infinitum, how old will it become?
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:54 pm to
The days go by slow and the weeks go by fast
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:55 pm to
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