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re: What is the benefit to driver-less cars?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:58 am to Jack Daniel
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:58 am to Jack Daniel
quote:And these same people operate cars right now, today.
There are tons of people that can't operate an iPhone or computer.
quote:Well, they won't be driving it, so that would seem like a step in the right direction based on your first comment about not being able to operate a phone/computer.
Will these people seamlessly operate a self-driving car?
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to shel311
Dude were like 20 years away at least from a self driving car, quit creaming your jeans.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to Jack Daniel
you really can't see any?
i mean shite just think about all the inefficiencies we have with parking. wasted space, wasted money, aesthetics, etc. in a world of driverless cars, we will have a world without individual ownership of cars. you need a car to pick you up, you hail it via app. you need a car to bring you back? the same. no more parking. vastly reduced traffic. the ability to use the time in the car efficiently. fewer accidents (and injuries, fatalities, etc).
i mean shite just think about all the inefficiencies we have with parking. wasted space, wasted money, aesthetics, etc. in a world of driverless cars, we will have a world without individual ownership of cars. you need a car to pick you up, you hail it via app. you need a car to bring you back? the same. no more parking. vastly reduced traffic. the ability to use the time in the car efficiently. fewer accidents (and injuries, fatalities, etc).
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to mmonro3
quote:
Dude were like 20 years away at least from a self driving car,
i will take that bet
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to Knight of Old
quote:You bring up a great example of an advantage of driverless cars... once a couple cars hit that pothole, they will inform all the other cars so they DON'T hit that pothole. Most driverless cars will probably see and avoid the pothole to begin with, anyway, though.
Additionally, infrastructure would have to be ideally sculpted and maintained to ensure optimal use of driver-less vehicles. How does all that happen exactly, as I pondr the highways and byways I travel daily with their plethora of potholes and permutations?
quote:They are more perfect than humans, though. The thing about "micro-processor computing technologies" is they will always produce the same output given the same input. If you present a thousand driverless cars running the same code with a particular situation, they will all react the same way. A thousand humans would likely react a thousand different ways. Safety depends on predictability, and machines are very predictable.
Finally, I'm sure that many millennials who could be easily dumbstruck by the likes of a rotary phone and instructions how to use it written in cursive may find this hard to believe but there are no 'perfect technologies', especially micro-processor computing technologies.
quote:Which is expected and planned for
computers continue to fail
quote:Again, expected and planned for
software continues to have bugs
quote:This is just plain false.
security is possibly more negligible now than ever before
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:03 am to RealityTiger
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Not saying that I wouldn't give it a shot one day, but it would have to be 20 years deep into working the kinks out for me to feel safe letting go of the wheel and sitting back.
Won't be long then, google has been testing for a bit now.
The old people that are bitching about it will be dead soon anyway.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:03 am to Jack Daniel
quote:Well the whole point is they wouldn't be operating it at all, so, yeah.
There are tons of people that can't operate an iPhone or computer. Will these people seamlessly operate a self-driving car?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:04 am to Jack Daniel
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There are tons of people that can't operate an iPhone or computer. Will these people seamlessly operate a self-driving car?
That's because the user interface for today's iphones are much more complicated than a self-driving car will be
the self-driving car will literally just ask for a destination address and maybe some scheduling to pick up the wife from the mall at 3:00pm
It wont be about having thousands of apps that do tons of different things
its beauty and ease will be in the simplicity of the thing. "Bring me here right now, then pick me up from there at 5:00 pm"
that will likely be the extent of what the user has to tell the car, the car will do everything else on its own
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to Bmath
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Since I drive at least 5 mph over the speed limit I always drive in the FAST LANE.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to mmonro3
quote:
Dude were like 20 years away at least from a self driving car, quit creaming your jeans.
2020 will have the first fully autonomous capable vehicle on the road. But we will never eliminate the complete need for a human driver. I would say what you see in today's airline industry is what we will see on the roads in the next 5 years. Drivers will be there as a redundant system in case the computer snafu's
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to mmonro3
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Dude were like 20 years away at least from a self driving car, quit creaming your jeans.
Uh, google is just one of a few that has been running self driving cars successfully in several cities that currently allow it. We are already there.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am to Ash Williams
Wonder how they compensate for driving in water or snow?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Wonder how they compensate for driving in water or snow?
im sure the cars will be able to monitor road conditions and take that into account when driving
the annoyance will probably be that sometimes the car just wont attempt to drive in some conditions because it knows that its too dangerous, whereas before the driver would just say "frick it, that water doesnt look to deep"
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:09 am to mmonro3
quote:1. We already have them
Dude were like 20 years away at least from a self driving car, quit creaming your jeans.
2. I've already noted just on the last page that a lot of the advanced stuff I mentioned I may not see in my lifetime.
So yea, I think you're overreacting or just not reading my posts.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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wonder how they compensate for driving in water or snow?
Google was having issues with snow, that was a bit ago though. Probably better with it now.
I think what they were trying to do is to have the computers learn the roads, so when something like snow happens and makes lanes and street signs not visible, the car can rely on previous knowledge to make a best guess on how to drive like a human would do.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:13 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:13 am to Jack Daniel
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I'm assuming the cars will work off of gps. Is your gps always 100% accurate?
Jeeze, maybe the Aggies are right.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:13 am to Bmath
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Since I drive at least 5 mph over the speed limit I always drive in the FAST LANE.
Fun fact: people hate you.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:20 am to mmonro3
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Hackers are going to be sending all yall driver less cars off cliffs.
I live in Indiana. Best of luck finding a cliff.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:21 am to RealityTiger
quote:Yes, electronics fail. Like I said, this is expected and easily planned for and engineered away. You are observing a non-critical or non-life-threatening system and applying those observations of reliability to all electronic systems. Here is a very simple solution to your faulty instrument example: triple redundancy. Three instruments all monitoring the same thing. If they all read the same, you can be extremely certain that they are correct. If one starts reading differently, but the other two match, you can still be pretty certain that the two are correct and the system can notify you that there is a faulty instrument. And even with the cheapest and least reliable electronics, it seems nearly impossible for two or all three to fail at once, but even in this extremely unlikely case there can be a failsafe system that takes the absolute safest action. In the case of a valve, there may be a mechanical system that puts the valve in its safe position when the instrumentation totally fails. In the case of a car, generally the safest thing to do at any time is to just stop. Not come to a screeching halt, but brake at a reasonably fast rate. And this system can be hard-coded/wired, immune to remote hacking. Physical modification of such a system can also be detected. No, it still wouldn't be perfectly safe, but it would require so much time, knowledge, and deliberate action to defeat it that it would be an extremely inefficient way to kill someone.
I see electronics fail all the time (instrumentation). And all they are doing is reading something and sometimes telling a valve to open or close.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:23 am to Dam Guide
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