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re: What is the benefit to driver-less cars?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:38 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:38 pm to TigerinATL
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If that's your only issue it's a non issue. Do it the same way a human driver would, survival instinct. So if we cut auto fatalities from 40,000 to 4,000 per year, who is actually going to complain that the machines made the same mistakes as humans would have even though they made them at a much reduced rate?
The argument against driverless cars will have nothing to do with how well they drive and everything to do with how disruptive the practically overnight devaluation of human drivers will be in socioeconomic terms.
my other issue is some redneck trying to reprogram it.
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:39 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Like I said, it's possible to program them so that this situation never arises. But if the market demands more speed and efficiency than such programming would require, then we will see the occasional unavoidable fatal accident. There will be much debate on this topic.
which is what?
quote:I think you aren't looking hard enough.
not one article talks about this.
quote:The car isn't going to decide anything, humans will. We could limit them to sub-fatal speeds and no one would ever die in a car accident. But who wants to ride around at 5mph all day? So that's the point where we, humans, have decided that people must die on the road. Convenience is more important than safety. But we can improve on both with self-driving cars.
the car is going to want to preserve the life on board. how will it decide who dies and who lives.
quote:Right, humans are many, many times worse. At what point is it unethical to continue allowing humans to drive?
(not saying humans are any better at this situation)
quote:Why wouldn't a car manufacturer want to say that their cars are 10 or 100 times safer than manually driven cars?
why would a car manufacturer want that burden?
This is going to be a very hot topic over the next few years, and the only thing that will slow the technology will be legal and political issues. We are going to need strict regulations and testing of these cars, and we will also need laws protecting manufacturers that abide by the regulations and pass the tests. frick the lawyers, we need to save lives.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:44 pm to t00f
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Do you still buy a 60k plus car if your sitting in the back seat and not driving it?
If they were driverless, I wouldn't buy a car at all. I'd call one when I needed it.
Hell, we came pretty close to going Uber only for my wife if we had picked a certain location/city for our move.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:48 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:Are you worried about some redneck reprogramming the hundred million vehicles with electronic accelerators on the road right now?
my other issue is some redneck trying to reprogram it.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:51 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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my other issue is some redneck trying to reprogram it.
Even then it goes back to the same computer driver > human driver argument. Let's say someone "jailbreaks" their car so they can do 90 on the shoulder as was mentioned earlier in the thread, how is that any different than the current situation with all human drivers? It's not like all of the computer cars are going to freak out and crash into each other because of something unexpected like a maniac driving on the shoulder.
I'd be more concerned about map and "app store" security and the threat posed by terrorists and unfriendly nation states than individuals hacking their cars. Imagine how much money the Eastern European and Russian Mafia could extort from companies like GM/Ford/Google if their systems were hacked?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:53 pm to Jack Daniel
IDK if this has been said yet but it would put Uber out of business. 
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:55 pm to Ray Penpillage
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Fun fact: people hate you.
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emoticon was my attempt at expressing sarcasm. Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:00 pm to CarRamrod
It would put too many people out of work/business, thats why it wont happen soon.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:01 pm to CarRamrod
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IDK if this has been said yet but it would put Uber out of business.
Not exactly. They already know this is coming and have been pouring money into driverless vehicle technology.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:03 pm to CarRamrod
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IDK if this has been said yet but it would put Uber out of business.
They might stand to gain the most out of all of this, as a matter of fact. They have seen this coming and have been making moves well in advance.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:12 pm to AbuTheMonkey
quote:I guess yall missed my point...... It would put Uber's employee's out of business. tards.
They might stand to gain the most out of all of this, as a matter of fact. They have seen this coming and have been making moves well in advance.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:14 pm to CarRamrod
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I guess yall missed my point...... It would put Uber's employee's out of business. tards.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:54 pm to Jack Daniel
i mean other than removing human error from driving I can't see any benefit.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:59 pm to bobaftt1212
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i mean other than removing human error from driving I can't see any benefit.
shhhhh nerds want to play WoW on the way to work.
another question for everyone. will the car know it left a child in the backseat?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:05 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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shhhhh nerds want to play WoW on the way to work.
another question for everyone. will the car know it left a child in the backseat?
Has this been an enjoyable troll for yourself this afternoon?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:06 pm to monkeybutt
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Has this been an enjoyable troll for yourself this afternoon?
not trolling. these are legitimate questions
Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:07 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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not trolling. these are legitimate questions
I don't believe you. Especially the leave the child in the backseat question.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:09 pm to monkeybutt
well you don't think some trashy parent would try to get the car to drop off their kid. what if the car returns home and kid is still in car. car shuts itself off due to not being used.
parent is off doing trashy stuff like meth or having sex with neighborhood kids
parent is off doing trashy stuff like meth or having sex with neighborhood kids
Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:09 pm to CarRamrod
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I guess yall missed my point
This:
quote:
IDK if this has been said yet but it would put Uber out of business.
Doesn't equal this:
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Uber's employee's out of business
Tard.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:10 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:That last one doesn't sound legit at all.
not trolling. these are legitimate questions
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