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re: What is the benefit of LSU's new +/- grade scale?

Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:11 am to
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17103 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:11 am to
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So what you are saying is that it should be common that people get the highest scores attainable. NBD


Not necessarily common but there should be at least one person in the class making that A+ grade.

And another issue is that this is the first semester of +/- meaning there will be a ton of kinks to work out grading-wise. There is no way to tell if a teacher will strictly follow the scale laid out in the syllabus.
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:23 am to
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It helps the Super-Nerds and fricks over everyone else. No other reason for it. So glad I left Ole Miss the year before this was implemented.


Well I'm fricked
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17103 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:11 pm to
Frick the +/- system. Cost me what could have been my first 4.0 ever.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58954 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:14 pm to
The +/- system definitely lowered my gpa this semester. Oh well.
Posted by lsuprof
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
509 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:28 pm to
I have spoken to some students who have supported this change, and I do not understand why. In the past students would get 4 points for an A, 3 points for a B, etc. Now they can get an extra .3 points for a "+" grade but lose .3 points for a "-" grade. The key question is how many "-" grades are there relative to the number of "+" grades. If there are more of the latter, this would have a positive effect on mean students' GPAs. If there are more of the former, then overall mean student GPAs should go down. Of course, if the number of "+" and "-" grades are the same, then GPAs should be the same.

In looking at grade distributions, I find that there are a lot more A- grades than A+ grades. This means that there are more students earning 3.7 grades than earning a 4.3 grades, so overall the average GPA for students earning an A is likely to go down.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16244 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:35 pm to
As a faculty member, I like the +/-. If someone does excellent work and makes 100% and someone else wings it and gets an 89.5, without the +/-, I'd give the 89.5 a B. With the +/-, I'd give him an A- and the dude with the 100 an A+. If anything, the +/- probably helps inflate the grades.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:38 pm to
It lowered my gpa this semester by .1

Oh well, at this point that has such a minimal effect on my overall gpa
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16244 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:51 pm to
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There is no way to tell if a teacher will strictly follow the scale laid out in the syllabus.
If they don't, file a grade grievance. The syllabus is a binding contract. Only problem is that most students don't care anything about their grades until the end of the semester when they suddenly realize that their strict, 16-week-long no-study regimen has produced a steaming pile of shite for a grade.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58954 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 5:57 pm to
I can honestly say I have not once talked to a professor about my grade.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:07 pm to
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In looking at grade distributions, I find that there are a lot more A- grades than A+ grades. This means that there are more students earning 3.7 grades than earning a 4.3 grades, so overall the average GPA for students earning an A is likely to go down.
What about the B+ students that would have earned the same 3 as students with a far lower B? There seems to be a focus on the - without any regard to the +. Regardless, it is more accurate and that seems like quite an important factor regardless of how it impacts any given student's GPA.
This post was edited on 12/15/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58954 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:11 pm to
I support the +/- system because I had a class with a friend and we both got Bs.

I had an 89.5 and he had close to an even 80. It really pissed me off.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/15/15 at 6:17 pm to
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As a faculty member, I like the +/-. If someone does excellent work and makes 100% and someone else wings it and gets an 89.5, without the +/-, I'd give the 89.5 a B. With the +/-, I'd give him an A- and the dude with the 100 an A+. If anything, the +/- probably helps inflate the grades.



Yea it helps inflate the grades when you bump up someone to the next grade level.

Looking from the outside, it has to be a more accurate way of grading than the previous system.

I see it hurting A students and helping the B students as a whole.
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