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re: What happens if asymptomatic people stop voluntarily testing for COVID-19?
Posted on 7/12/20 at 8:52 am to Yak
Posted on 7/12/20 at 8:52 am to Yak
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How would you even know that
To be fair, are we really trusting that the myriad of testing locations and labs are synced up so well that they know when they have repeat testers? Unless they’re all sharing the same software system that is tied to your SS# or something, I imagine determining repeats would be nearly impossible if people are visiting multiple places that use different tests/labs.
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 8:55 am to Tiger971
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Would it have any effect on the local/state mandates for required masking?
Percent positive, and percent tested would both likely shoot up, in the trifecta of test stats most are looking at. Hospitalization would also be going up. And those untested asymptotic carriers would likely be spreading it more in the meantime since they are unaware.
It isn’t simply new case numbers only. And if you think they are being disingenuous about it then why do you think that would change anything?
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 11:09 am
Posted on 7/12/20 at 8:57 am to Tiger971
I feel like the asymptomatic thing is a little overblown. Seems like a large majority have some symptoms from what I gather be it sore throat, or mild fever. The real threat is the people with mild symptoms who can spread continuing to go out in public, and not wear the damn mask
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:00 am to Tiger971
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What happens if asymptomatic people stop voluntarily testing for COVID-19?
The actual problem would be the reduction in data. Mass testing yields valuable data regarding the virus, transmission patterns, severity, etc. Mass testing will also detect asymptotic cases, which is valuable for data analysis and understanding which members of the community are at the greatest risk.
The problem comes from the lazy misuse of the data to reach hasty and unsupported conclusions. One improper conclusion is that raw number of positive tests results means that the outbreak is getting “worse.” That is a lazy supposition.
A valid use of the mass testing data is to understand how the virus spreads easily in the community so that we can craft simple precautions which reduce the risk that the virus presents to the vulnerable members of our community.
The discussion really should be about how do we, as responsible citizens, take simple steps to protect each other, based on the data. What we are learning is that if we take simple steps, shutdowns are unnecessary and panic is ridiculous. But also, taking a stand that one refuses to do anything, increasing the risk for the vulnerable, is very bad and childlike behavior.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:05 am to LouisianaLady
I mean, it's either you do or don't.
I'm gonna go ahead and trust science and technology on this one rather than some dude on the internet telling me to do the opposite of everything I've learned about testing and results to this date
I'm gonna go ahead and trust science and technology on this one rather than some dude on the internet telling me to do the opposite of everything I've learned about testing and results to this date
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:06 am to biohzrd
That’s 3 cases
Stats don’t look at each individual
Stats don’t look at each individual
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:11 am to Yak
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I'm gonna go ahead and trust science and technology on this one rather than some dude on the internet telling me to do the opposite of everything I've learned about testing and results to this date
Fair enough. I've never been tested. Maybe someone can chime in on what kind of personal information they gather when you're tested?
I know some testing sites have been drive-thrus or pop-ups in bars. The only way to ensure people's positives are not being counted multiple times would be for all testing sites and labs to use the same software and it "know" not to count the same SS# more than once. Do we know that this is happening?
I'm genuinely asking, as I do not know. I'm just more inclined to believe that with the rapidness all of this has had to happen, they're just counting raw cases even if they're the same people over and over.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:12 am to TBoy
For those of you not in healthcare, here is the importance of the asymptomatic person being tested. Up until 4 days ago we tested all pts coming in the facility. New admits, elective procedures, infusion clinic etc. the purpose of that was to slow the burn rate of PPE. If the status of someone is unknown they are under suspicion because we can’t put them in a room with you or have the same clinicians care for them and you without PPE. Once they are ruled negative they are standard precautions, possibly in a semi private room, the same PACU etc. the testing is to conserve resources because even if Jesus Christ was our president there is only so much capacity to manufacture PPE.
We can no longer do that as testing supplies, such as reagent, are now in short supply. Now only symptomatic people are being tested. Our positivity percentage is now up so the situation appears worse. We are burning through PPE though which sucks but it is what it is.
We can no longer do that as testing supplies, such as reagent, are now in short supply. Now only symptomatic people are being tested. Our positivity percentage is now up so the situation appears worse. We are burning through PPE though which sucks but it is what it is.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:13 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:Same in AR.
Hell, local news affiliates in north AL have been begging everyone to go get tested, whether sick or not.
Every night the news stations here let us know where the mobile testing clinics are and specifically tell us anyone can be tested.
It's due to bullshite regulations that each state has to test a certain amount of people to meet some arbitrary "guidelines".
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:13 am to Tiger971
It would likely increase the spread
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:15 am to Tiger971
I posted this yest
People should quit getting tested.
What’s it matter if you have it or not.
Not as if they have a vaccine to give you.
If you feel you so then take the 14 days alone.
Eat some ibuprofens and relax till you feel better.
People should quit getting tested.
What’s it matter if you have it or not.
Not as if they have a vaccine to give you.
If you feel you so then take the 14 days alone.
Eat some ibuprofens and relax till you feel better.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 9:16 am to LouisianaLady
So, my son was tested, but we actually went to a doctor for that. Once strep was confirmed, I went to pick up his script at CVS where drive thru testing was being done. From what I saw, they scan your DL for your info...did not hear anything being said though.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 10:34 am to LouisianaLady
With stats, you always count what’s presented to you
So if one person has been tested 3 times and it’s 3 positives, it’s 3 cases. There’s not enough time nor resources to exclude the other positives. Nor would the government entities do so because they’re not ethical.
The only real stat for this would be mortality rate
So if one person has been tested 3 times and it’s 3 positives, it’s 3 cases. There’s not enough time nor resources to exclude the other positives. Nor would the government entities do so because they’re not ethical.
The only real stat for this would be mortality rate
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