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re: What Happened to Confederate Leaders After the Civil War

Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:24 pm to
Well, Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of the KKK...LOL.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:29 pm to
What’s 750,000 or so dead between friends, right? Just a little hiccup. Meanwhile. 159 years later in the same country, 20 year old kids will kill a man for using a plastic straw or saying the wrong pronoun.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18843 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:30 pm to
I was at Gettysburg for the 125th anniversary of the battle. All I can say is, Confederates must have been crazy to march in formation across that huge open field. Cannon and rifle fire cut them to pieces. Civil War had to be the most brutal war ever.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40180 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 6:37 pm to
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Totally off topic but for decades Longstreet was the fall guy for Gettysburg because Lee was untouchable. But the reality is that Lee fell under the timeless trap of believing his accomplished troops could do anything and he eschewed Longstreet’s advice at Gettysburg and then Longstreet had to try to make chicken salad out of the chicken shite plan Lee handed him.

Exactly! Lee was canonized and beyond criticism for many. But had he absolutely erred in eschewing Longstreet's advice at Gettysburg.



This is true. However, Longstreet did not exactly perform well when he was given an independent command and sent to try and take back Knoxville.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18181 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:28 pm to
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Well, Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of the KKK...LOL.



They just used his name for recruiting. In reality he wasn't really associated with it. In fact, the only time he did associate himself with it, he shut it down due to the radical elements within.

He actually advocated for rights for blacks after the war.

The entire narrative with him is complete BS.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57316 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:51 pm to
He was half Italian. His mother was a Reggio.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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57316 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:52 pm to
No, that was World War 1.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64692 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:02 pm to
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I was at Gettysburg for the 125th anniversary of the battle. All I can say is, Confederates must have been crazy to march in formation across that huge open field. Cannon and rifle fire cut them to pieces. Civil War had to be the most brutal war ever.



World War I has entered the chat. You had the same tactics as those employed by Lee at Gettysburg, but with the addition of machine guns, bolt-action rifles, far more artillery with much more lethal shells, poison gas, and, to top it all off… barbed wire.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28514 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:04 pm to
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And they still pulled his statue near City Park in NOLA…some people would rather delete history than really discuss

Mitch the Bitch Landrieu. frick that POS.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36880 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:15 pm to
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How'd that work out?

They changed Camp Beauregard's name
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19362 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:20 pm to
Many of them had graduated in the same classes. They had known each other before the war.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25102 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:44 pm to
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Longstreet was arguably the South’s best general yet there are no monuments to him for some reason


I am not so sure Longstreet's men pushed really hard for monuments
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
176103 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:47 pm to
i would like a link or subscription that would provide more info on such matters, Good Sir
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64161 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:51 pm to
They all knew each other and served alongside each other in the US military prior to succession. They all went to West Point together.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25102 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 8:56 pm to
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i would like a link or subscription that would provide more info on such matters, Good Sir


I like watching Ranger Matt Atkinson give lectures and battlefield walks

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=matt+atkinson+longstreet+gettysburg+pickett%27s+charge

Ol Baw is from Mississippi
This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 8:57 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27669 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 9:45 pm to
Longstreet was a pragmatic man even as a general. He thought the strategy at Gettysburg was a bad idea. After the war he thought continuing to discriminate and harassing the black man after the Civil War was unrealistic and stupid. He embraced the Republicans and he was good friends with Grant. I think he was somewhat related to him by marriage.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
3262 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 9:48 pm to
After being released from prison Jefferson Davis traveled internationally and then settled in Biloxi, MS. He died in a house on First Street in New Orleans while visiting friends.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12960 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:11 pm to
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They all knew each other and served alongside each other in the US military prior to succession. They all went to West Point together.
many of them fought together in Mexico.

Lee ended up under Winfield Scott as an engineer and Grant was a lieutenant in the infantry on advance from Vera Cruz.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98273 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:13 pm to
Joseph Wheeler returned to the US Army as a general during the Spanish American War. Another ex Confederate general volunteered his services for WWI, but was declined. I used to know his name but can't place him now.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
25102 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:15 pm to
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He thought the strategy at Gettysburg was a bad idea.


Delaying the attack on July 3 by hours was a bad idea

Leaving soldiers in the direct sunlight to the point of heat stroke/exhaustion & vomiting was a terrible idea

Laying down for a nap in front of a British War Observer & many of your own men in the middle of this was a terrible idea & a very bad look for a leader

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