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re: What are the point of public libraries anymore?

Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:56 am to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:56 am to
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Monday as I left my Yeti cup in the library last week




Vodka Tonic?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 7:58 am to
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Broadmoor Middle on Sharp is a shame.


That ugly piece of shite is still there?

Yep. I recall going watch my brother's soccer games there as a kid.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:00 am to
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Just because you don't use them. doesn't mean other people don't.




It doesn't matter if people still use them, that's not how we determine the usefulness of something that is government funded.

They're a huge waste of money and the only people who disagree are the ones who grew up (middle school/high school) during a time when cell phones and internet connections weren't ubiquitous.

Libraries are unnecessary and a waste of tax dollars. In many cities they're simply a refuge for the homeless.




Denver Post: Homeless spending days at Denver’s libraries find help in the stacks

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A crowd waits outside Denver’s Central Library on cold winter mornings, many of them homeless, their backpacks and wheeled luggage carts heavy with necessities of life on the street.

When the doors open at 10 a.m., they rush inside
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:13 am to
I use the library all the time. Most of them have an e-book catalog you can download to a kindle as well, which I'm a big fan of. My taxes already pay for it, so why not use the service? Obviously there are books I want to own, but for those I will never revisit or need to make notes in, I just see if the library has it.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:15 am to
Just because Denver has a stoner homeless group doesn't mean it's unecessary. Libraries have adpated to serve as community centers and not just a place to house books. Just because you stay at home, look on the internet and make your candles doesn't mean others don't meet up at the library to discuss, share, and demostrate a hands on approach to candle making.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:18 am to
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Do you know anybody that does?


Spend more time with smart people. I suggest the library.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:20 am to
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Just because Denver has a stoner homeless group doesn't mean it's unecessary. Libraries have adpated to serve as community centers and not just a place to house books. Just because you stay at home, look on the internet and make your candles doesn't mean others don't meet up at the library to discuss, share, and demostrate a hands on approach to candle making.


Why do I have to pay for you to have a spot to hang out?

Go to starbucks. Or go to a park or a local university library. Community libraries usually receive federal funding. Why do I have to pay for homeless people to sleep and bang in public libraries in Denver or Baton Rouge?

My candle-making group is perfectly fine meeting at my place so we can share ideas and enjoy each other's company.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:25 am to
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Why do I have to pay for you to have a spot to hang out?


You can use it. You choose not to.

This is like me complaining about roads that I don't use.

This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 8:26 am
Posted by Styxion
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2012
1700 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:26 am to
Have you priced new books lately? Why should I pay $18 for a book that I will read once when I can borrow it for free.
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:27 am to
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You can use it. You choose not to.

This is like me complaining about roads that I don't use.



Again, that it exists is not an argument for the necessity of its existence.

It's actually like you complaining about roads that shouldn't have been built.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 8:29 am
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:29 am to
Idiocracy is real

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:30 am to
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Again, that it exists is not an argument for the necessity of its existence.


Of course it isn't a necessity. Never claimed it was.

I'm sure there are plenty of libraries that could be shut down. But there are also plenty that communities get real use from.

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It's actually like you complaining about roads that shouldn't have been built.


Not at all. Because people/taxpayers use libraries.

This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 8:31 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:30 am to
Is it really that much of a financial burden on cities?
Posted by Pecker
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:31 am to
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Of course it isn't a necessity. Never claimed it was.

I'm sure there are plenty of libraries that could be shut down. But there are also plenty that communities get real use from.


Then those communities should pay for them without federal dollars.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:32 am to
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Then those communities should pay for them without federal dollars.


Are most local libraries federally funded?
Posted by Pecker
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:34 am to
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Is it really that much of a financial burden on cities?




I think that community libraries should not receive federal funding. Not because I think it's a huge financial burden to tax payers, but because principally why should you be required to pay for homeless people to sleep and have sex in the Greek Classics section of the Chattanooga Public Library? In addition to that, local communities will be incentivized to better care for their libraries and maintain them in the absence of federal funding.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:36 am to
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I think that community libraries should not receive federal funding.


If you can show me where local libraries are receiving federal funding, I'll agree with you here.

But this is where you should have started your argument.

Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:37 am to
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Are most local libraries federally funded?


Most receive supplemental funding from federal dollars. Some smaller cities receive very little. Other libraries in larger cities receive much more. Point being, if it's so important to your community, your community should receive no federal money.

Posted by JamesLang
Member since Mar 2018
388 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:37 am to
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When was the last time you've been to one?


Last week.

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In today's age, I feel as if public libraries have become unnecessary because of the technology that the average person has available to them.


Kids need to read books. Not iPads.

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So why not get rid of them and save some money?


Funding libraries is not crippling the government. Can we maybe cut grants to study whether transgendered people are upset by by the use of the term vegetarian instead?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
60735 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:38 am to
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Why do I have to pay for you to have a spot to hang out?

So you are not for any public spaces? Parks, streetscapes, landmarks, little league fields?

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My candle-making group is perfectly fine meeting at my place so we can share ideas and enjoy each other's company.

Nope, they're actually thinking I wish we lived in an area where we could meet up where we don't have to put up with the narcissistic SOB.
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