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re: What % of drivers know that "drive right" is the law?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:18 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:18 pm to Korkstand
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We've already established that the left lane driver isn't obeying the rules, he's cruising in the left lane. IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO PREVENT THAT. And it's definitely not your job to break another law to make the situation even worse.
See how we can go in circles....
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But this does not change the fact that you are the one who created the unsafe situation.
There is no unsafe situation if there weren't a difference in speed and in that case the speeder is in the wrong. This is where I win the argument.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 3:20 pm
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:22 pm to Displaced
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I'll get over when I finish my pass.
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Get to the right as soon as you can.
Finally, you get it.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:24 pm to Displaced
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He is only the a-hole if he decides to get right up on my arse because he decides I'm not going fast enough for his liking. The rest of your post is irrelevant of you don't consider this point.
So, the guy maintaining his lane and speed is the a-hole? Predictable is safe. You made the unpredictable move.
And why is it he who decided you aren't going fast enough for his liking? Why isn't it you who decided the other guy isn't going slow enough for your liking? Why haven't you considered this point? It's because you are too self-centered. You are dangerous.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:26 pm to Displaced
quote:quote:Again, the hypocrisy is so strong that it's becoming hippocracy
Selfish and/or oblivious drivers are dangerous drivers
Again, you are forcing your pace on him, he isn't forcing his on you. YOU forced his pace on yourself by getting in front of him illegally.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:34 pm to Displaced
quote:NO! There will ALWAYS be speed differentials regardless of the posted speed limit. Even if no one speeds, people would drive different speeds. This is EXACTLY WHY people need to obey the drive right rule. IT MINIMIZES THE SAFETY RISK OF SPEED DIFFERENTIALS.
There is no unsafe situation if there weren't a difference in speed and in that case the speeder is in the wrong
quote:This is where your self-importance is once again on display. You cannot "win" this argument by claiming that your lawbreaking is better than another's. You even said yourself that illegal is illegal.
This is where I win the argument.
I'm not claiming that the speeder is necessarily "right". I'm saying the slow left lane driver is creating the unsafe situation.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:43 pm to Korkstand
Predictable is a word too open to interpretation.
Now, If he got over when you were a quarter mile back, then it's a none issue even if you have to slow down a little at the tail end of his pass. In this case, to him, your speed is not predictable especially at a quarter mile. What is predictable is that his current speed needs to change or he needs to move over to pass he vehicle in front of him. His decision is based upon whether or not you coming from behind will over take him before he would over take that car in front of him... unfortunately that's not an exact science and people's depth perception is not perfect, especially when looking in a mirror. It's more important for drivers on the highway to spend more focus on what's in front than what's behind, though a good balance of both is necessary for good driving and to prevent him from cutting you off. Just like you from a quarter mile back can better tell that if he got over, you don't have a free lane to pass him yet, so if you don't change speeds then you will impact. Luckily from a quarter mile back you have plenty of time to adjust safely. Now if you're rapidly enclosing on him and he cuts you off from 50 to 100 feet, that's not safe. Everything in between is all open to everyone's best perception of the circumstances at the time.
Now, If he got over when you were a quarter mile back, then it's a none issue even if you have to slow down a little at the tail end of his pass. In this case, to him, your speed is not predictable especially at a quarter mile. What is predictable is that his current speed needs to change or he needs to move over to pass he vehicle in front of him. His decision is based upon whether or not you coming from behind will over take him before he would over take that car in front of him... unfortunately that's not an exact science and people's depth perception is not perfect, especially when looking in a mirror. It's more important for drivers on the highway to spend more focus on what's in front than what's behind, though a good balance of both is necessary for good driving and to prevent him from cutting you off. Just like you from a quarter mile back can better tell that if he got over, you don't have a free lane to pass him yet, so if you don't change speeds then you will impact. Luckily from a quarter mile back you have plenty of time to adjust safely. Now if you're rapidly enclosing on him and he cuts you off from 50 to 100 feet, that's not safe. Everything in between is all open to everyone's best perception of the circumstances at the time.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:48 pm to Korkstand
So your argument is that the person driving 90 in the left lane (let's call him Bob) has the ultimate right of way and anyone in front of Bob who wants to pass someone must yield to Bob or they will be creating an unsafe situation?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:52 pm to Steadyhands
quote:You're gonna lose that game and be even more pissed
it's a fun game to play
You already said you get angry when people do it to you. Why wouldn't you just let them over? It's because you think it's your road and no one is getting in front of you, right?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 3:55 pm to Displaced
That's exactly what he's saying. And he's going to say something about both doing something illegal...blah blah blah. However, what if Bob were going 100 or 110? My question to kork is...is the guy who moved over still considered the one who caused the bad situation? Or where do we draw the line? Oh want isn't that the point of he speed limit? Sorry if it inconveniences bob to have to slow down from 90 to 75 because someone moved over before bob got there. The unsafe situation is determined by at what point did the driver move over. If Bob has to hit his brakes moderately, than the other car is in the wrong. If Bob just had to let off gas and coast to match speed....then Bob has no right to be upset and a bad situation was not created.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:00 pm to Korkstand
25%
I think the by far biggest problem is unnecessary braking. Nothing chaps my arse worse then when some loon, 200 feet behind the nearest car in front, just hits his brakes to drop a mph or two. Well then a chain if brake hitting stars.
And why in the frick can no one around here go over a bridge ir overpass without hitting the brakes?
Anywhere a road curves while going up and down causes congestion. (Veterans exit, 610/10 merge at Franklin)
I think the by far biggest problem is unnecessary braking. Nothing chaps my arse worse then when some loon, 200 feet behind the nearest car in front, just hits his brakes to drop a mph or two. Well then a chain if brake hitting stars.
And why in the frick can no one around here go over a bridge ir overpass without hitting the brakes?
Anywhere a road curves while going up and down causes congestion. (Veterans exit, 610/10 merge at Franklin)
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:00 pm to Hammertime
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It's because you think it's your road and no one is getting in front of you, right?
How do you figure? What gives you the right to occupy the safe gap between me and the car in front of me, in a line of vehicles passing another vehicle, as your spot in line...when you were perfectly fine behind me. You as the last person in a line of say 3-5 cars should not try to weave in and out to get ahead. You should wait your turn and as the right lane clears and the other drivers either move over or continue to pass the ones that were in front of them....well eventually you will have the clear moment to pass as well. You don't get to be the a-hole who cuts people off because your impatient and can't wait your turn in line.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:03 pm to Displaced
FWIW, I don't tailgate people who are passing at a reasonable rate. I just let them do their thing. I will tailgate someone who cuts out in front of me right before I get to them, even if they are passing at a reasonable rate.
I can go the easy way, or the hard way (for you, not me). Either way you put it, I'm gonna pass you. No matter how much you fight it, or how pissed you get, I'm gonna pass you. I win. You lose padnuh
I can go the easy way, or the hard way (for you, not me). Either way you put it, I'm gonna pass you. No matter how much you fight it, or how pissed you get, I'm gonna pass you. I win. You lose padnuh
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:04 pm to Hammertime
How do you check their knuckles if you are behind them, Billy badass?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:06 pm to Steadyhands
You know damn good and well that you are in that line of five cars for the long haul, and have been for miles. No one, including you, has any plans of getting over. You're just "waiting for the guy in front to move over" so you can pass him, right? I drive a lot. I know how that works
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:06 pm to Hammertime
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FWIW, I don't tailgate people who are passing at a reasonable rate. I just let them do their thing. I will tailgate someone who cuts out in front of me right before I get to them, even if they are passing at a reasonable rate.
I stand with you on that one.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:08 pm to Displaced
In my rear view mirror, because I am now in the front
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:10 pm to Hammertime
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You know damn good and well that you are in that line of five cars for the long haul, and have been for miles. No one, including you, has any plans of getting over. You're just "waiting for the guy in front to move over" so you can pass him, right? I drive a lot. I know how that works
Yep, agreed. That's what I'm saying...and some a-hole that thinks he's going to come sneak around me and cut me off at the last possible second between me and the car we're all trying to pass...that shite is stupid. Don't care if he thinks I'm leaving a gap big enough for him to fit in...what the hell does it matter if we're all going the same speed and I'm just doing it more safely. I think some of these guys just get pissed and think you're going to slow if you're not riding the arse of the car in front of you.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:16 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:18 pm to pistolpete23
Posted on 10/4/17 at 4:34 pm to Steadyhands
That post was a jab at you.
You're not trying to pass anyone. You're just sitting there behind the person in front of you, who isn't getting over, but you are hogging the left lane waiting for the person who isn't getting over to get over. So now you are a left lane rider, and so are the three cars behind you that are doing the exact same thing you are. How is someone supposed to pass all of you retards? You're just causing traffic to back up behind you. I'll gladly cut in and bypass the congestion you cause.
I very rarely get angry or excited when I'm driving. It's just like I'm sitting around watching TV. It doesn't bother me one bit if you think I drive unsafely. It bothers you, so TIFWIW. Like I posted earlier, I'm gonna pass you one way or another, and I'm not gonna wait for "my turn" if I don't want to
You're not trying to pass anyone. You're just sitting there behind the person in front of you, who isn't getting over, but you are hogging the left lane waiting for the person who isn't getting over to get over. So now you are a left lane rider, and so are the three cars behind you that are doing the exact same thing you are. How is someone supposed to pass all of you retards? You're just causing traffic to back up behind you. I'll gladly cut in and bypass the congestion you cause.
I very rarely get angry or excited when I'm driving. It's just like I'm sitting around watching TV. It doesn't bother me one bit if you think I drive unsafely. It bothers you, so TIFWIW. Like I posted earlier, I'm gonna pass you one way or another, and I'm not gonna wait for "my turn" if I don't want to
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