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re: West Point Cadet Missing, along with his M4 rifle

Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:53 am to
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Too bad they didn’t lose JBE when he was there




Like him or not and say what you want about him but he is a graduate of West Point and that is pretty impressive. I don’t give a shite about him as governor but I respect his education.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:55 am to
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he is a graduate of West Point and that is pretty impressive.


meh, not so much any more
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23550 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:55 am to
This is where I'm getting that from:

YouTube
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:56 am to
My first thought with no name release
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 9:59 am to
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meh, not so much any more



Care to elaborate?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:01 am to
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but he is a graduate of West Point and that is pretty impressive.


It's about who you know as much as anything today.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:07 am to
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Care to elaborate?


I work with a lot, a lot of grads from the service academies, many of them that are liaisons from their service branch to their academy, or are involved in other capacities, general consensus among them is that that all of the forced pc over the last few decades has diluted the standard of education at all of the academies to the point of them being reduced to almost community colleges, many wouldn't let their own kids go there, this is not to say there aren't some very highly qualified people that go there and leave with a great education, just that the standards have lowered to the point to where getting in and out is not based on merit very much anymore

ETA: also, it hasn't been too long since part of the contract was, you couldn't just quit, or if you flunked out, you didn't go home crying like a little bitch to mama, you went to boot camp, pretty good motivator right there
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21842 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:09 am to
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It's about who you know as much as anything today.


Thats part of it, but theres a large number of cadets there that got in as enlisted soldiers (without congressional nomination), not high school seniors.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21842 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I work with a lot, a lot of grads from the service academies, many of them that are liaisons from their service branch to their academy, or are involved in other capacities, general consensus among them is that that all of the forced pc over the last few decades have diluted the standard of education at all of the academies to the point of them being reduced to almost community colleges, many wouldn't let their own kids go there, this is not to say there aren't some very highly qualified people that go there and leave with a great education, just that the standards have lowered to the point to where getting in and out is not based on merit very much anymore


Theres a phrase among old grads for this- "the corps has...".

There were a lot of changes in the late 90s that were meant to make West Point more bearable, but some people think it made West Point lose its edge. These (ironically) were called "the changes". Hazing, plebe abuse, among others were outlawed.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70130 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:14 am to
Geees

Better than goofy rispone

Not that that's saying much
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86489 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:25 am to
Back in 97 when I lived in Colorado an Air Force pilot from Tucson in an A-10 with a live bomb load broke formation and flew around for hours before flying into a mountain. I read that it was his first bombing practice run and his Mom was a Jehovahs Witness and he was possibly in the middle of a psychological conflict about it that sent him over the edge. As if we needed another reason to hate Jehovahs Witness crackpots.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14536 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 10:49 am to
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Like him or not and say what you want about him but he is a graduate of West Point and that is pretty impressive. I don’t give a shite about him as governor but I respect his education.


and at least 20 jumps out of a C130.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3373 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 4:34 pm to
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30 magazine clip, can be fired in half a second.






The standard rate of fire for the M-4 in auto mode is @ 6 rounds per second.

That gives you an average time of emptying a 30 round magazine in @ 5 seconds.

Of course I'm talking real world and not Call of Duty, FTR
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76153 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 4:39 pm to
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I read that it was his first bombing practice run and his Mom was a Jehovahs Witness and he was possibly in the middle of a psychological conflict about it that sent him over the edge.
Reason #19,233 that you don't see the USAF singing this tune:

Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
21783 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 4:43 pm to
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is not believed to be carrying any ammunition.


Not like he could simply walk in the nearest Academy Sports and buy all the ammo he wants......
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89823 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 5:38 pm to
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Like him or not and say what you want about him but he is a graduate of West Point and that is pretty impressive.


Who served 8 yrs and got out as a captain. Meaning his OERs couldn’t have been all that.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
350000 posts
Member since Sep 2010
15708 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 5:48 pm to
Ill bet you whatever you want, you cant dump a fully loaded magazine in under a second. Jesus Christ. You anti gun tards are dumb.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 5:53 pm to
Well, a cadet is a future 2LT. Perhaps they got lost on a land nav course?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 5:55 pm to
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Who served 8 yrs and got out as a captain.


probably counting USMA time, 90 day wonder + 5 is pretty standard?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21842 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 6:10 pm to
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Well, a cadet is a future 2LT. Perhaps they got lost on a land nav course?


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