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Weather gurus, this time of the year anything outside of 4 day forecast is just guessing?

Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:42 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:42 am
I look at the 10 day forecast on weather.com and it looks like around the 4-5 day mark the forecast pretty much revert to the historical average in terms of high and low temps. Is that right?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:43 am to
no, next!
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51613 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:46 am to
No the 4-5 day mark is usually somewhat correct with a decent sized margin of error. If it’s saying we’ll have seasonal average temps then chances are we will.

If there was the chance of something major coming down to disrupt the average at this time of year there would be a thread on it already. Expect highs in the 60s and 70s with lows in the 40s and 50s.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 8:48 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87746 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:51 am to
I think it's a little bit longer than that, right? Although it definitely seems like it reverts to historical averages at some point

I'm basing that entirely off the fact that 10 day forecasts for Atlanta in October are like

95 94 96 94 93 93 93 85 85 84
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:52 am to
you're the political boards official climate scientist, you tell us.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2508 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:55 am to
TDsngumbo, you seem to know your shite. What kind of winter are we looking at, especially with all the cold fronts we've been getting. I'm unsure if this is normal or not.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:02 am to
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TDsngumbo, you seem to know your shite.




He doesn't
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:02 am to
quote:

I'm basing that entirely off the fact that 10 day forecasts for Atlanta in October are like

95 94 96 94 93 93 93 85 85 84


Long term forecast (greater than 5 days) May though October seem easier than November through April in southern U.S. It's not until a disturbance in the Atlantic, Caribbean or Gulf start making the forecast uncertain during the warm months.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Weather gurus, this time of the year anything outside of 4 day forecast is just guessing?


That's true of any point of the year. Beyond three days is usually guessing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:03 am to
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you're the political boards official climate scientist,


Climate is not weather.


Unless it's record breaking heat.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 9:04 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:29 am to
quote:

look at the 10 day forecast on weather.com and it looks like around the 4-5 day mark the forecast pretty much revert to the historical average in terms of high and low temps. Is that right?


Kind of. They're reasonably locked in the 48 to 72 hours, they probably have a 90% solution for the 96 to 144 hours out and a 75% solution in that 7 to 10 day range - now that's primarily on the temperature.

Their ideas about when and where there will be precipitation don't age nearly as well 10 days out. Probably about half as accurate on precipitation, in my experience.
Posted by OscarTheGrouch
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
6001 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:45 am to
Sounds about right..... and btw, why the hell did we jump from summer straight to winter? Where did fall go?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51613 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:52 am to
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TDsngumbo, you seem to know your shite.


quote:



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He doesn't



I don't know man. I just watch the models all the time during hurricane season and winter because I am a weather fanatic. I've learned quite a bit over the years but I'm no expert.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 9:54 am
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13397 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:57 am to
quote:

I look at the 10 day forecast on weather.com and it looks like around the 4-5 day mark the forecast pretty much revert to the historical average in terms of high and low temps. Is that right?


I am no meteorologist, but from what people say on this board all the following predictions have a better track record than meteorologists:

Throwing spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks

Use a Ouija board

Consult a magic 8 ball

Flip a coin
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I am no meteorologist, but from what people say on this board all the following predictions have a better track record than meteorologists:

Throwing spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks

Use a Ouija board

Consult a magic 8 ball

Flip a coin



Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70814 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:38 am to
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Beyond three days is usually guessing.


IDK.

This time of year they can see when a front is coming down and if it should make it or not. They may be off by a day or so but still they can basically tell its going to get cold.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18053 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:44 am to
Yeah I think they're good at picking up the large scale things (cold front, big storm system) pretty early on. It's the nuances (rainfall amounts, rain/snow line, exact timing) that aren't fine tuned. Winter precip is especially difficult, as a 1-2 degree difference either way, or just a little more/less moisture has major implications.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:00 pm to
50% of broadcast meteorologists graduate from The Mississippi State University. We predict weather badly on purpose.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:25 pm to
Fewer factors go into the summer pattern forecasts.

There's a ridge over nearish Florida and sometimes a stout high over the plains. The shape and strength of those dictate most of the summer weather. On the edge? We'll get more rain and it won't be as hot (bc rain). Under the dome? Hot and no rain.

A call of 93 for the high, 73 for the low and 40% chance of afternoon showers. That'll be right pretty often in the summertime here.

Come the transition to winter, it's the jet stream dips and mid latitude cyclones. The variables at play increase quite a bit. We got airmasses mixing a lot more, polar jet stream dips, the subtropical jet coming to play more.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66994 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:31 pm to
Other than the summer months, this is true.
I can go ahead and give you the summer forecast now.
Highs in the 90's, overnight lows in the 70s, partly cloudy with a chance of afternoon thunderstorms.
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