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re: We should be thankful: Another For Profit College is downsizing

Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:18 am to
Posted by BrohemAlem11
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:18 am to
That's incorrect according to them. I believe my mom was able to enter her 2 year PT school program at LSUHSC after 2 years at UNO. Very different from having to get a bachelors degree followed by a doctorate.

Also, the only thing a PTA is unable to do that a PT is is assess. Other than that a PTA can do everything else.

My parents love what they do, but have advised a friend of mine considering the field NOT to pursue being a PT and strongly encouraged him to go the PTA route. The career looks very similar and the return on investment is insanely better
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 11:21 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:20 am to
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So no loans or schollies for trades?


Plenty of community colleges and public vo-tech colleges that teach trades.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:22 am to
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I have no idea about this specific school, but what's so bad about a school being for profit in general?


Nothing.

However, there are exactly zero for-profit schools that aren't diploma mills.

Certainly, a for profit school could form and actually be legit. And they would probably do well.
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:23 am to
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Computer programming? We don’t need that shite. Oh wait, are we typing this on an internet message board?


Would fall under engineering dip shite. Hence the name software engineer. Bet they didn’t teach you that in your psych classes
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:25 am to
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Plenty of community colleges and public vo-tech colleges that teach trades.


Yes, but the vast majority of trade degrees do not come from those places. Full disclosure, my family owns trade schools with over 2k students at a time. However, most have jobs lined up well before completion of a program. Job employment rate has never dipped below 95% in a year. Public loans and grants allow these students to get the degree, they would be SOL otherwise.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:30 am to
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Full disclosure, my family owns trade schools with over 2k students at a time. However, most have jobs lined up well before completion of a program. Job employment rate has never dipped below 95% in a year. Public loans and grants allow these students to get the degree, they would be SOL otherwise.


Would you mind sharing the school name? Because, that's NOT the experience most people have with for-profit schools... so maybe people should look at attending the ones your family owns.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:30 am to
You're right. There is an extra year of school. but doing the clinical rotations which before had to be done outside of the actual 2 year. Either way, I'll stand by the PTA's have a ceiling.

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Other than that a PTA can do everything else.

Not at my wife's place. A PTA cannot perform anything without direct supervision of a PT. A PTA is not going to be any director at a hospital. A PTA is not opening their own clinic.

I get what you're saying though and it could be close but a PTA is still limited. Now if you're just a person who wants to go just to work and do your job and go home, maybe the PTA route is for you.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 11:32 am
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13915 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:39 am to
I see what you are saying for sure. Which is why its crazy to me that the field has gotten to the point where my parents think PTA is still the better route. Keep in mind my dad owns his own clinic.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:53 am to
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my parents think PTA is still the better route.

The more I think about it, it's probably that way for certain people.

What's funny to me is how mad my wife got when they started awarding them a doctorate. She can't understand that all her experience trumps that doctorate label.



Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:56 am to
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Would you mind sharing the school name?


Its in Ohio so no one from this board is going there

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? Because, that's NOT the experience most people have with for-profit schools.


The people that attend for general studies and crap degrees. My family's schools(4 of them) are strictly for trades or similar. I'd also say about 90% of the students get some sort of funding from the government and a large percentage are on Pell as well
Posted by King
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:06 pm to
No one in my family told me it was a bad idea to go to ITT Tech. My dad was strung out on meth. My mom was glad I was doing something besides dope with my dad.

I spent a year or so at a community college before ITT Tech. Not being a school kind of guy all the basic courses were meh to me.

ITT Tech didn't have all the basics. 2 math and 2 English classes. Both were gravy. It was mainly computer/OS/networking equipment classes.

The cost did get me to buckle down. I thought about it. Didn't realize exactly how long and how much it would really cost though.

They pitched a good sales pitch to me and i bought it hook line and sinker at 23.

Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:08 pm to
A lot of the for-profit schools are teaching a useful trade, in addition to having to meet job-placement requirements for their graduates.

Slap that requirement on LSU and Southern and standby for the outcry.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13915 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:16 pm to
Yea I could see that being frustrating as hell!
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:21 pm to
I hope the medical school at UL does not meet the same fate. That project has me nervous as a taxpayer.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2403 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:21 pm to
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If someone wants to get a degree in lesbian pop culture, then let them go. It’s their life and decision, not yours.


I would agree with that if the student was paying for the degree or getting a loan from a private company.

But, since student loans are now federal, I as an investor find it a terrible investment.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:37 pm to
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dip shite
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Bet they didn’t teach you that in your psych classes
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deathvalleyfreak43


Well you are one spicy a-hole frick face. I was obviously speaking tongue in cheek. It's the fricking OT not the Poli Board arse wipe.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:40 pm to
The final death knell for Cortana Mall.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2864 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:02 pm to
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wish the govt wouldn't back student loans for ANY colleges.


FIFY
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14570 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Well you are one spicy a-hole frick face. I was obviously speaking tongue in cheek. It's the fricking OT not the Poli Board arse wipe.


Take it easy man, just busting your grapes.. Man you liberal arts majors are easily triggered

Must be all the debt
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 2:34 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 3:06 pm to
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I could be mistaken but PT's now are awarded a doctorate for the same amount of time your parents put in at school. They aren't going to any extra classes

Everyone is a doctor now. Even pharmacists which are like the opposite of a doctor because they deny medicine to people. My cousin that has fibromyalgia has gotten plenty of doctors to write him prescriptions for the medicine he needs but the pharmacists in town tell him he can’t have it
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