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re: We need to launch another Saturn V to the Moon ASAP
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:35 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:35 am to OMLandshark
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Because establishing a Moon base would not only allow us to mine it,
I'm sure this has been looked at and the risk/reward/cost is not there. You also still have to get stuff to and from the moon.
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:39 am to shawnlsu
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I'm sure this has been looked at and the risk/reward/cost is not there.
Or it could be because we’re a bunch of partisan idiots who only think in 4 year increments and keep kicking the can down the road. Our handling of this virus and the decades of ignoring the writing on the wall is proof of this. The Moon Base would not pay off for at least a generation. As people have shown, they only want immediate gratification. A Moon Base is not that, it’s investment that will last centuries even if we don’t see immediate benefits from it.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:48 am to OMLandshark
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Because establishing a Moon base would not only allow us to mine it
Mine it for what? It's made of the same shite Earth is, and getting anything back here would be next to impossible and make no sense whatsoever.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:49 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:49 am to sanora
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have you considered that maybe we aren't anymore after 40+ years of war on the middle and working class while the wealthy destroyed the fabric of our society to line their pockets even more
Found the Marxist.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 11:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The benefit is launching against lower gravity, not saving the distance
You do understand that everything that will launch from that lower gravity needs to get there by escaping regular Earth gravity, yes?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:05 pm to Amadeo
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Seriously, why can’t we rebuild the Saturn V with better hardware and go back to the Moon?
I think I read somewhere that the plans for the Saturn V were “lost” and NASA has been unable to find them
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:09 pm to OMLandshark
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Think of how staggering it was for our ancestors to leave the comforts of civilization in Europe to come to America where civilization was unrecognizable to them.
That is a totally different situation and you know it. Yes, they took a long and arduous boat journey and landed in a foreign country that was chock full of all the raw materials they needed to start a new life.
They had timber to build houses, game and fish to supply their food, all the fresh potable water they could want, seeds and plants they brought with them to start agriculture on a large scale.
It wasn't in a hostile environmental atmosphere where to be outside required a sealed suit that encapsulated them and supplied the air they needed to breath and air circulation to help keep them comfortable.
Sorry, but your simplistic analogy just doesn't work for me.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:09 pm to Chucktown_Badger
I agree the moon base is not the greatest idea but we need something to get the American people interested in space again. The reason the moon is the us goal right now and not mars is because we can get to mars before Trumps next term ends and they want to use it as a jumping off point.
Our best plan at the moment for Mars is Starship with in orbit refueling. We are already on the 4th version and they are getting ready to do another test flight this month.
Our best plan at the moment for Mars is Starship with in orbit refueling. We are already on the 4th version and they are getting ready to do another test flight this month.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:14 pm to CM Tiger83
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we need something to get the American people interested in space again
This will do it if and when it ever launches. Also, in terms of exploration, unmanned will continue to be the best and most informative approach.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:18 pm to Slingscode
quote:Why? It would be much harder to live there than on the moon or Mars, and a lot less interesting and much less would be learned.
Let's start with exploring the ocean depths.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:20 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Don’t think James Web is going to do it. Manned mission to moon again or Mars is the next big thing.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:30 pm to Korkstand
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It would be much harder to live there than on the moon or Mars
I disagree.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:31 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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You do understand that everything that will launch from that lower gravity needs to get there by escaping regular Earth gravity, yes?
Not the fuel.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:34 pm to gumbo2176
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That is a totally different situation and you know it. Yes, they took a long and arduous boat journey and landed in a foreign country that was chock full of all the raw materials they needed to start a new life.
They had timber to build houses, game and fish to supply their food, all the fresh potable water they could want, seeds and plants they brought with them to start agriculture on a large scale.
It wasn't in a hostile environmental atmosphere where to be outside required a sealed suit that encapsulated them and supplied the air they needed to breath and air circulation to help keep them comfortable.
Do you know how many people died going to the New World? Probably way more than will die pursuing the space race. Yeah, there aren’t animals or vegetation we will find there, but there are raw materials we can work with up there. I find the overall process to be the same but far more difficult. Luckily we have a bunch of machines these days to do the dirty work for us rather than just man and horse power.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:35 pm to OMLandshark
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Not the fuel.
And all the mining, refining, and storage materials and facilities? Where will those come from?
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:36 pm to Bullfrog
Mankind has never stepped foot on the moon. More than likely never will.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:36 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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You do understand that everything that will launch from that lower gravity needs to get there by escaping regular Earth gravity, yes?
That's where re-usable rockets come into play. We only have to push it to the moon once. After that, many missions can be conducted from the moon much more economically.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:39 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I disagree.
Dude, living on the very bottom of the ocean is one step below living on Venus. The pressure would be ridiculous. I’m not sure simply from the pressure standpoint how you could survive down there for days at a time and then come back up and survive normal atmospheric pressure.
Posted on 5/16/20 at 12:41 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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And all the mining, refining, and storage materials and facilities? Where will those come from?
Starts on the Earth, but once we facilities up running, then we can produce a lot of the materials up there.
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