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re: We have a New Pope - USA - Robert Francis Prevost, now Pope Leo XIV

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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:16 pm to
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Lmao some of y'all are really wetting the bed over this.


Some quotes I'm seeing from Robert Francis Prevost, now Pope Leo XIV:

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"We cannot build a just society if we discard the weakest—whether the child in the womb or the elderly in their frailty—for they are both gifts from God."


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in 2012, Cardinal Prevost made comments criticizing media portrayals that expressed "sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel," including the "homosexual lifestyle" and "alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their adopted children,"


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When I think of St Augustine, his vision and understanding of what it means to belong to the Church, one of the first things that springs to mind is what he says about how you cannot say you are a follower of Christ without being part of the Church. Christ is part of the Church. He is the head. So people who think they can follow Christ "in their own way" without being part of the body, are, unfortunately, living a distortion of what is really an authentic experience.


Y'all are falling for stupid media labels of "moderate" and "liberal." Those words have an entirely different meaning inside the Church
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:17 pm to
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"The Vatican" is not going to reprimand Bishops in the US for their involvement, or lack thereof, with Catholic Charities. Since we're on an LSU site. Your comparison would be like the Governor of Louisiana telling the LSU Alumni Chapter of Phoenix how to run their crawfish boil. Could he do it? Sure...LSU is a state institution and each chapter is a member of the Alumni Association which has a charter with LSU.

That's a retarded comparison.

I would say the Catholic Church carrying out a mission using church resources and property while receiving billions of dollars from the most powerful government on the planet doesn’t get approval without the boss’s say so.

That’s a hell of a lot more high profile than a fricking crawfish boil.
Posted by DVA Tailgater
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:22 pm to
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Y'all are falling for stupid media labels of "moderate" and "liberal." Those words have an entirely different meaning inside the Church


Exactly. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the Lord.”- Isaiah 55:8
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:23 pm to
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How many popes have their been for everyone

#4 for me
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:26 pm to
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His Twitter account is obsessed with taking shots at JD Vance.

As I predicted, he is going to be WORSE than Francis.


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Ronaldo Burgundiaz

You're FOS
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by TigersWin88
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:33 pm to
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Thats absolutely not a Christian concept and I hope the damn pope would know that


It absolutely is a Christian concept.

St. Thomas Aquinas refined ordo amoris in his Summa Theologiae, calling it ordo caritatis (order of charity). He says that love begins with God, then extends to oneself (as a prerequisite for loving others), and then to others based on proximity and responsibility—e.g., family, neighbors, and community—before extending to those further away.

This comes from a literal Saint--one of the Catholic Church's greatest theologians.
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:35 pm to
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:58 pm to
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A new pope from Chicago needs a true Chicago introduction
Communions hosts will now be miniature deep dish pizzas and Malört will replace red wine as the blood of Christ.

Ketchup on hot dogs and rooting for the Green Bay Packers are now considered heretical acts.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:01 pm to
Warning... paywall... I only care about the headline

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Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:07 pm to
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t absolutely is a Christian concept.

St. Thomas Aquinas refined ordo amoris in his Summa Theologiae, calling it ordo caritatis (order of charity). He says that love begins with God, then extends to oneself (as a prerequisite for loving others), and then to others based on proximity and responsibility—e.g., family, neighbors, and community—before extending to those further away.

This comes from a literal Saint--one of the Catholic Church's greatest theologians.


yes, it is a Christian concept promoted by a Catholic Saint...however, you won't find it stated in the Catechism of the Church that one needs to follow that mindset specifically. Two or more Catholic's can have differing view points on that topic, but not be wrong.

This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:15 pm to
Not to get too deep into the weeds theologically, but I think the whole "disagreement" on the interpretation of ordo amoris was a little more complex than "immigrants BAD vs immigrants GOOD!" Francis even pointed out in his letter that countries have a right to defend themselves from violent and dangerous people.

Further, I think the response from Catholic thinkers to Vance was more of a caution to not interpret ordo amoris as a reason to close your heart to immigrants, especially those who are genuinely in need. Aquinas even writes:

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“[W]e ought in preference to bestow on each one such benefits as pertain to the matter in which, speaking simply, he is most closely connected with us”

“And yet this may vary according to the various requirements of time, place, or matter in hand: Because in certain cases one ought, for instance, to succor a stranger, in extreme necessity, rather than one’s own father, if he is not in such urgent need.”



Essentially: yes your charity is naturally ordered to tend to the ones closest to you first, but that doesn't mean shutting out the ones in further circles. No theologian is going to interpret that to mean you can't care about the global poor because your family is more important.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:18 pm to
Well said
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