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re: We are being nickel and dimed to death.

Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213857 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:38 pm to
Ok. I can understand your overall point, however it’s your fridge. A device you use everyday for years. I myself don’t mind the higher price for such an important fixture in my home. Just saying.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117979 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:51 pm to
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Only trick was to let the water run a few seconds


Hell yeah. I am in my mid 40s, but I did the same thing. You had push the "hot water" out, but I think I use to grab it, have to my mouth and turn it own.

We were outside all the time. If we were "down the road" if we were thirsty it was normal to just go up to someone we knew house and get a few sips of water from their hose. There was one point when we got Kentwood water that was delivered, but I don't think we had it for more than a year, but even then it was a habit to drink faucet water.

Posted by GeauxHouston
Midland, Texas
Member since Nov 2013
4852 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:39 pm to
$12.75 for a beer at the Houston Rodeo. Disgusting.
Also the “fees and taxes” applied to entertainment tickets and vacation rentals are insane.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
18922 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:45 pm to
Would never buy a GE refrigerator again. Once was enough. Compressor went bad 3 months after purchase.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
59177 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:47 pm to
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couple days later it went back to green. It's been green for 8 months now.
If not previously stated, someone held down your button for 5 seconds and reset the change water filter thread light.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12481 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:48 pm to
Have an RO that also goes to the fridge, so I don’t think I’ll ever care about the Fridge Filter.

The RO, on the other hand… the model I bought had been replaced twice by Lowe’s, so they didn’t even have a replacement filter.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7102 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:01 pm to
People actually replace those
Posted by Camijoe
Member since May 2024
373 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:14 pm to
It's time for the working people to revolt
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21853 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:17 pm to
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Got a new fridge. Finally time to replace the filter. The new filter is half the size on the new fridge despite being a similar model to what was replaced (the interior is almost exactly the same). Bought a 3rd party cheap filter like I always do because the GE ones are overpriced. Put it in. Error.

Apparently the new fridges have a fricking chip in them to see if you’re using a name brand filter. I did find an off brand that works but it’s $40 instead of $50. So barely a savings.

It is infuriating how much money is being sucked out of us at every turn. I will probably just never change this filter again. I classify this under the new subscription model that almost everything is pushing us to. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear there are WiFi fridges that do charge monthly or else they disable.

Rant over.




Bro we are getting nickel and dimes to death on any type insurance known to mankind


Health Insurance
Auto Insurance
House Insurance
Hurricane insurance
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
12468 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:40 am to
This is why I buy bare bones appliances that are still solid brands.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37121 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:15 am to
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What price do you put in your family’s health. I would never trust an off brand filter. That’s like playing a slow motion version of Russian roulette.


I haven’t changed our filter in like 6 years. We’re all fine.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21533 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:26 am to
I am completely with you OP. Seems like things have changed quickly too, it’s all around us.

I’ve noticed it with “AI”. Every software I use has some sort of BS AI function that I’m being charged for in place of actual development.

Pop ups on my cell phone screen, add-ons, introductory pricing that spikes after the user base has grown…subscriptions that can be started in a mobile device but not cancelled, impossible password requirements for things that don’t need a password making it difficult to remember logins to cancel.

Oh and shipping these days is an absolute joke, particularly our friends at USPS. Everything is days and weeks late. Prices going up.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28592 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:21 am to
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What’s wrong with an “expired” filter anyway? Unless it gets clogged, wouldn’t it still filter the bad stuff out?


First, typical disposable water filters general work in two ways: particulate and chemical filtration.

Normally particulate filtration is done with some sort of paper or polymer structure that works like a web and traps particulates via mechanical means. particulate filters actually become more efficient over time by a process often called seeding. The fine particulates that get caught continually make spaces in the "web" get smaller and smaller catching more and finer particles. The filter fails when it becomes so packed that it can no longer provide the volume needed at the pressure present.

Chemical filtration in the same type of disposable water filter is usually done with activated carbon. Carbon is treated in a way that it opens up tons of tiny pores/crevises/caves so that as chemicals in water pass over and through it where the molecules of chemicals are attracted and held in these pores in a process of adsorption (that is not a typo, there is a D there). The amount and quality of the activated carbon determines how (and the type) of chemicals it can adsorb before being depleted. So in this sense a chemical filter has a finite life but the fridge is not doing a pre and post analysis of the water to see when this point is reached and simply using a likely very conservative metric (either time or volume) to trigger the replace message. So if you live in an area where the tap water has fewer chemicals in it then the filter will last longer but still has a limited life. Activated carbon is very susceptible to being rendered useless when the pores are filled with particulates which is the reason there is always particulate filtration ahead of the chemical filtration in these filters.

So a filter can become clogged with particulates which you will know when the volume is too low and can reach capacity on the chemical filtration side when the adsorption ability is exhausted. A homeowner is just going to have to guess on that side and probably factor in the manufacturer is probably being very conservative with their numbers because they want to sell filters.

There is a third reason filters can "fail" that in a way ensures they will "time out" at some point: bacteria. The particulate filter as it traps more and more organic and inorganic debris produces something akin to growth media. Anaerobic bacteria will begin to build up on the filter media and depending on species can release cytotoxins, enterotoxins et al which are dangerous to humans and animals. The bacteria can also spread onto the chemical filtration side and fill the pores with biological film and render them ineffective. Less frequent or more intermittent use often accelerates the bacterial growth process. Don't overthink that as it would be rare to experience acute life-threatening issues but it also doesn't mean it is totally benign. This is a situation where no filter could be better than an old filter.

The simple answer is homeowners have no idea when the optimal time to replace their fridge water filter is. There may be a time when fridges actually test the water, maybe by comparing the pre and post filtration redox potential, but even that would not be ideal and the probes would need manual or automatic cleaning. We are just left to guess and use the manufacturers suggestions as part of out decision matrix. Our SubZs at out home don't have filters (expensive but one of the best appliance choices I ever made given we are 25 years in and not a single repair to the fridge or freezer) so we don't have that issue but we use a larger 4 stage filter in the garage for the fridge and sink drinking faucet. At the camp we comply change ut when it tells us to because not living there it is more of a pain to keep up with than it is worth.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10341 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:24 am to
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Health Insurance
Auto Insurance
House Insurance
Hurricane insurance

Post paid cellphone plans
Cell phone installment plans (free upgrade!)
Cable TV! (Hulu, Netflix, etc.)
Gas!
Fuel filters!
Tires!
Brakes!
Razor blades!
Toilet paper!
Deodorant!
Food!

Why all these recurring subscriptions??!?
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15088 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:31 am to
Fridge filters, home vent air filters, light bulb varieties, etc

They are all a scam
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11483 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:36 am to
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Got a new fridge. Finally time to replace the filter. The new filter is half the size on the new fridge despite being a similar model to what was replaced (the interior is almost exactly the same). Bought a 3rd party cheap filter like I always do because the GE ones are overpriced. Put it in. Error.

Apparently the new fridges have a fricking chip in them to see if you’re using a name brand filter. I did find an off brand that works but it’s $40 instead of $50. So barely a savings.

It is infuriating how much money is being sucked out of us at every turn. I will probably just never change this filter again. I classify this under the new subscription model that almost everything is pushing us to. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear there are WiFi fridges that do charge monthly or else they disable.

Rant over.



I never change ours. We have municipal water. It is the safest water supply ever available in the history of mankind. There is no need to filter it further and in fact many studies indicate filters cause more harm than they eliminate. If I did replace it it would need to be replaced every 4-6 weeks at $50 a piece which would be so somewhere around 10-12 times a year or $600 or so for a completely unnecessary filter.

If it makes you feel good by all means filter your municipal water.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11483 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:38 am to
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What price do you put in your family’s health. I would never trust an off brand filter. That’s like playing a slow motion version of Russian roulette.


Unless you live in an area where filtration is recommended, which is almost unheard of in the United States, eliminating the filter altogether has zero health impact. The water supply in the United States is the healthiest water supply ever available to human beings anywhere. Filtering it further is superfluous except in very rare places.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
5562 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 5:52 am to
I was buying Brita filters all the time until I decided to get the Berkey water filter. Anyone else have one?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66665 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:31 am to
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I forget which brand it was, but I tried ordering ink for a printer and I had to buy it from the manufacturer and it required some sort of subscription. I bought a new printer.




IF you use your printer a lot, I can not stress how much you need to buy the Shaq liquid ink style printer. I have one at work and I print a lot. I had HP for years and got tired of buying those cartridges for $120 a shot every few months. I got the Epson and have used it for a looooooong time and the ink is not barely half gone.



It is a huge improvement on ink usage and cost


Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:37 am to
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I knew that I didn't want to frick around with an inkjet printer so I went with a Brother laser printer. Toner will last me about a year and a half and the Amazon replacements are around $20.


Same here. I was having to buy a new $70 inkjet on an annual basis.

I finally invested in a Brother LaserJet. Cost me $400 and I've had it for about 8 years now. Still runs like a champ.
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