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re: Waukesha Christmas Parade Massacre Trial - Brooks Gets 6-Life Sent. + 762.5 yrs in prison

Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:40 pm to
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or require him to have counsel.

That's an interesting argument because you always are defending yourself. You just have the right to have counsel per the 6th amendment. You can't require someone to use counsel unless the person is, essentially, mentally incompetent. Which, say what you will about Brooks' low IQ and intelligence, he doesn't meet that low level of incompetence so he can't be forced to have counsel. He has displayed he has an understanding of how courts work (with his disruptions mainly being a delaying tactic) so they can't say he is incompetent and requires counsel.

I wish he had an actual attorney representing him because this trial would've been over 2 weeks ago but you can't force that, especially once the trial has started. The judge just needed to be forceful and actually follow through on her threats and his behavior would've been nipped in the bud. Much like standing up to a bully.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:41 pm to
I don’t care about his appeal.

It’s ridiculous that the victims families have to watch this moron walk all over our justice system after he brutally murdered their family at a Christmas parade. Have they not suffered enough?

He already can’t get the death penalty. Now he gets to run the court, yell at the judge, and stare her down? What kind of message does that send.

frick him. frick his appeals. He needs a rag stuck in his mouth and put in a 4 point harness. They can pull the rag out when it’s his time to ask questions.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:41 pm to
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She can see through what Brooks is doing - he's been trying to bait her into exploding on him for the last few weeks - and as soon as she does, he'll use that as a basis for an appeal.

Sure, but she doesn't have to explode to maintain control of her court room. She just needs to send him to the other court room and not let him back for the rest of the day. None of this back and forth bullshite.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:41 pm to
He won't have appellate issues that would change the outcome of this trial.

The jury has seen enough of his behavior to know that most of the time that they are shoveled back and forth is due to his behavior. They have to despise him at this point. He has done that to himself.
Posted by bikerack
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:43 pm to
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Not sure what he was actually convicted on for that... but it's indirectly on the record in this trial that a 23 year old Brooks impregnated a 15 year old Erika Patterson


Using those facts, that is by definition not pedophilia.

Illegal, yes. Repugnant and abhorrent, absolutely. Sex offender status, yes.
Not pedophilia though.
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:45 pm to
Oh my fricking God, appeal, appeal, QUIT WORRYING ABOUT A frickING APPEAL.

If this case presents an appeal opportunity given his behavior, and it actually works, we have much, much bigger problems to deal with.

Let this case play out as it should: by treating this son of a bit h the same way you would treat any other unruly defendant.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Bamawaterfowl
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:45 pm to





Posted by rt3
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:48 pm to
Oh Judge Dorow was originally nominated by Scott Walker

Interdasting
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:49 pm to
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That would also help his appeal. She's got to keep him in the courtroom and engaged as much as possible to minimize appellate issues.


I don't think it would because as has been said multiple times one of the ways you can handle a disruptive individual is to "remove them from court" she would be in the clear. She isn't even removing him from court entirely. He can still interact and confront his accuser and witnesses. Just from another room.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80534 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:50 pm to
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That's an interesting argument because you always are defending yourself. You just have the right to have counsel per the 6th amendment. You can't require someone to use counsel unless the person is, essentially, mentally incompetent. Which, say what you will about Brooks' low IQ and intelligence, he doesn't meet that low level of incompetence so he can't be forced to have counsel. He has displayed he has an understanding of how courts work (with his disruptions mainly being a delaying tactic) so they can't say he is incompetent and requires counsel.

I wish he had an actual attorney representing him because this trial would've been over 2 weeks ago but you can't force that, especially once the trial has started. The judge just needed to be forceful and actually follow through on her threats and his behavior would've been nipped in the bud. Much like standing up to a bully.


In Illinois v Allen, the judge removed the defendant(who was defending himself) and required that the appointed counsel continue with the trial.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:50 pm to
Mask back on
Posted by KosmoCramer
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80534 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:51 pm to
I'm really surprised he's back in the courtroom after slamming his fist and giving the death stare.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:52 pm to
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I'm really surprised he's back in the courtroom after slamming his fist and giving the death stare.

He's been reading the Bible though... I'm sure he'll be reserved now
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:54 pm to
He's been reading the verses about Samson destroying the temple. The dreads are gone, now he's going to pull on his shackles until the table collapses
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:54 pm to
I think it's broken.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:58 pm to
Back on? My feed says be back shortly
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:58 pm to
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Using those facts, that is by definition not pedophilia.


I suppose attraction to prepubescents would be the appropriate definition of pedo then.

It's semantics either way.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Back on? My feed says be back shortly



Rekieta Law on Rumble
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 3:03 pm to
JESUS!!! She's trying to feed him the answers (about removing his prior from 2007) and he's such a disagreeable dumbass that he's knee-jerk saying "no".
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 3:05 pm
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