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re: Waukesha Christmas Parade Massacre Trial - Brooks Gets 6-Life Sent. + 762.5 yrs in prison

Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:08 pm to
This witness is awesome. He knows exactly what to do.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:09 pm to
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The next witness doesn't remember what he saw or told the cops

I mean, come on, he does. He just doesn't want to give Brooks anything.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23046 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:11 pm to
Exactly. Brooks is trying to get him to say something contrary to his police report or something that identifies someone who doesn't look like Brooks. He's not taking the bait. This kid is smarter than Brooks.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Screw that. Put him in gen pop.


So he can manipulate people and practice his psychopathy? You aren’t going to make him anxious or live in fear. This guy thrives in that environment. He’s defending himself in a murder trial where he faces death.

The best thing for him is to lock him in a room where he can’t manipulate and intimidate anyone. No books. No TV. 4 walls and silence. He can yell and scream all he wants and no one will hear it. When that fact sinks in then he will feel the punishment he deserves.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2552 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:11 pm to
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I mean, come on, he does. He just doesn't want to give Brooks anything.


Sarcasm exists you know
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Exactly. Brooks is trying to get him to say something contrary to his police report or something that identifies someone who doesn't look like Brooks. He's not taking the bait. This kid is smarter than Brooks.

I'm going to be accused of white knighting for Brooks again when I say this but this really is unfair to Brooks here. This kid almost certainly remembers what he said but since his statement at the time conflicts with Brooks actual description at the time he is saying he doesn't recall. That's a shitty thing to do and shouldn't happen to any defendant, no matter how guilty that defendant actually is.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147183 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:13 pm to
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He’s defending himself in a murder trial where he faces death.

Not to 'ummm... akschully...' you

But Wisconsin doesn't have the death sentence... life in prison is his max penalty
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7327 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:15 pm to
While that may be true, Brooks could also just shut down the questioning.

He continues to ask questions of people who aren't helping his case. He's the dumbass that's literally just reading down the witness statements and taking what they said and asking it as a question.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted by tterrific
Member since Sep 2022
649 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:15 pm to
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That's a shitty thing to do and shouldn't happen to any defendant, no matter how guilty that defendant actually is.


Bull fricking shite. His statement at the time is a matter of record. Memory a year later is wholly unreliable.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23046 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:15 pm to
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I'm going to be accused of white knighting for Brooks again when I say this but this really is unfair to Brooks here. This kid almost certainly remembers what he said but since his statement at the time conflicts with Brooks actual description at the time he is saying he doesn't recall. That's a shitty thing to do and shouldn't happen to any defendant, no matter how guilty that defendant actually is.


I disagree. The lawyers watching have said he can refresh the witness' memory by reading from the report. He just doesn't know how to do that and which questions to ask because he's not a lawyer. Even an incompetent defense attorney would know to do that and avoid this issue.

ETA: not only that, Brooks is following a line of questioning trying to imply the witness is unreliable because he remembers it as a shooting. It's entirely irrelevant because detectives have already testified to shooting at the vehicle, which is why he would've heard gunshots.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:18 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147183 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:17 pm to
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I'm going to be accused of white knighting for Brooks again when I say this but this really is unfair to Brooks here. This kid almost certainly remembers what he said but since his statement at the time conflicts with Brooks actual description at the time he is saying he doesn't recall. That's a shitty thing to do and shouldn't happen to any defendant, no matter how guilty that defendant actually is.

Not going to accuse you of white knighting for him...

Just gonna say that it's on Brooks to know what the witness is going to say on the stand and call those he knows he'll get honest & beneficial testimony

His public defender would've known this

ETA: the public defender would also know how to properly impeach an uncooperative witness
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:20 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:18 pm to
Well Brooks fricked that up royally

Couldn’t happen to a bigger piece of shite
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59327 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:20 pm to
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Just gonna say that it's on Brooks to know what the witnesses to say on the stand and call those he knows he'll get honest & beneficial testimony

His public defender would've known this

ETA: the public defender would also know how to properly impeach an uncooperative witness


Bingo.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23046 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:20 pm to
Now Brooks is mad at the judge for allowing him to ask bad questions
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59327 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:22 pm to
He can see the strategery of the prosecution...

"Proving you did what you are on video doing" isn't a deep plot to unwind.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7327 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:22 pm to
"I'm not stupid."

"I disagree with that, sir."
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97080 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:23 pm to
Could you imagine even being friends with this lunatic?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23046 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:23 pm to
He's complaining about the state not cross examining his witnesses
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:23 pm to
This dude needs the shite beat out of him
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:23 pm to
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I disagree. The lawyers watching have said he can refresh the witness' memory by reading from the report. He just doesn't know how to do that and which questions to ask because he's not a lawyer. Even an incompetent defense attorney would know to do that and avoid this issue.

ETA: not only that, Brooks is following a line of questioning trying to imply the witness is unreliable because he remembers it as a shooting. It's entirely irrelevant because detectives have already testified to shooting at the vehicle, which is why he would've heard gunshots.

I understand that. I am saying, personally, I think he remembers and is just not giving Brooks anything because his statement at the time is conflicting. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable so I'm 100% certain he actually saw Brooks driving but since what he thought he saw at the time doesn't match Brooks actual appearance he no longer recalls. Others can disagree with me that's fine and I may be wrong. That's just how I see it.
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