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re: Washington Senator states nurses likely play cards all day and angers a lot of nurses

Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:01 pm to
So-so nurses do their charting and what the doctors tell them to do.


Good nurses actually think about what they're doing and don't give the scheduled mealtime insulin just because it pops up on their MAR as due when the provider changed the patient to NPO and forgot to hold it.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3338 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:01 pm to
Nurses of the OT must be on their smoke break.

Or ordering their favorite “Nurses Save Lives” car magnet.
Posted by TastyJibblets
North of I-10
Member since Jun 2018
665 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:08 pm to
Nurses are doctors secretaries
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14795 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:16 pm to
First time clicking in here. If I would have only known.
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:22 pm to
They don't just play cards, gotta leave time for having sex with married doctors in the stairwells and stuff.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53004 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:26 pm to



That’s really nice of sting to say that
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14144 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Holy shite, an honest nurse. You might want to duck. Your catty RN colleagues will be along any minute now to bitch you out and tell you you have Stockholm Syndrome or something. 



You can be a good nurse. You can be a good professional. You can be smart and all those other yada yada things and at the same time, have a professional sense of security and confidence in knowing your primary role is to serve and follow the direction of your clinical superiors.

It's not a bad or insulting thing and I earn a good living doing it.

So many nurses fancy themselves potential doctors without fully understanding how immensely hard it is to get into medical school.

Your average doctor has an IQ of about two standard deviations higher than your average nurse.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14144 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:39 pm to
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They don't just play cards, gotta leave time for having sex with married doctors in the stairwells and stuff.


You want to find out who the head nurse is on the floor?

Look for the dirty knees.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:56 pm to
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many nurses fancy themselves potential doctors without fully understanding how immensely hard it is to get into medical school.



This is also true and a reason for the rise of mid-levels and their assorted identity crises-- look no further than this very thread in which a CRNA is not satisfied with title and introduces himself as an anesthesiologist to patients. Or the guy dating the NP student who feeds him nonsense about how they do/know everything that doctors do/know. And many with the same statement: "could've done med school if they had wanted to".... as if you just walk through the doors and voila you're a doctor.

It is becoming ingrained in nursing school, nursing culture, and is prevalent among "advance practice nurses."
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47506 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:08 pm to
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If you have fb and are friends with any nurses...chances are you have already seen this posted.


Why didn't you comment on my post about it?
My brother says that EVERY female nurse shops on her phone when not charting or treating patients and that several doctors post on TD all day.
This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:21 pm to
My point with my reply to the poster who said all nurses do is follow orders was that nurses serve as the eyes and ears for the doctors when the doctors aren’t there. Nurses are there on the unit 24/7....doctors are not. The nurses there are one of the doctor’s best resources to know if their patient’s condition changes for the better or worse.

I have no problem following orders from the doctors. I’m not a doctor and don’t want to be and don’t ever want the responsibility. But when I was at the bedside I was also taught to not just follow orders but to know why the doctor was ordering what they were ordering....so that I could potentially alert them to a potential error before it reached the patient. Also....my highest priority is not to the doctor but to the patient. Being the patient advocate always needs to be at the forefront of any nurse’s actions.

Any good nurse doesn’t blindly follow doctor’s orders just cause the doctor ordered it. That’s how huge medical errors can happen. The nurse needs to be intelligent enough to catch an error the doctor may have made before it reaches the patient. If the error happens and something serious happens.....a nurse trying to say he/she was only following orders will not be able to use that excuse to get out of trouble.

We are all human and capable of making errors...even doctors. You don’t want nurses that don’t question a weird order, you want nurses that will be able to say “something doesn’t look right, can you please clarify the order doctor”.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8162 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:23 pm to
There is no way you are a doctor and that ignorant, not to mention the fact that you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

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Or the guy dating the NP student who feeds him nonsense about how they do/know everything that doctors do


Never said that troll

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Could’ve done med school if they wanted to


Both myself and my GF could have went to med school if we wanted. LSU interviewed a student with a 3.1 and 496. We both finished undergrad with 3.7’s.

I genuinely don’t like touching strangers, especially ones that need medical care that are usually obese.
She wanted to start working and making money before 30 and not be saddled with 200k in loans. You act like med school is so hard to get into but its not. Physical therapy and occupational therapy are twice as hard to get into
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:29 pm to
Isn’t it harder to get into veterinary school than med school?
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4493 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Physical therapy and occupational therapy are twice as hard to get into




Some real gems in this thread
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:35 pm to
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myself and my GF could have went to med school if we wanted


There it is, again.

quote:

You act like med school is so hard to get into but its not. Physical therapy and occupational therapy are twice as hard to get into


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ignorant


Wow.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8162 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:41 pm to
Laugh all you want. Physical therapy accepts 36 students, LSU med takes about 150
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14144 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:42 pm to
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My point with my reply to the poster who said all nurses do is follow orders was that nurses serve as the eyes and ears for the doctors when the doctors aren’t there. Nurses are there on the unit 24/7....doctors are not. The nurses there are one of the doctor’s best resources to know if their patient’s condition changes for the better or worse. 

I have no problem following orders from the doctors. I’m not a doctor and don’t want to be and don’t ever want the responsibility. But when I was at the bedside I was also taught to not just follow orders but to know why the doctor was ordering what they were ordering....so that I could potentially alert them to a potential error before it reached the patient. Also....my highest priority is not to the doctor but to the patient. Being the patient advocate always needs to be at the forefront of any nurse’s actions. 

Any good nurse doesn’t blindly follow doctor’s orders just cause the doctor ordered it. That’s how huge medical errors can happen. The nurse needs to be intelligent enough to catch an error the doctor may have made before it reaches the patient. If the error happens and something serious happens.....a nurse trying to say he/she was only following orders will not be able to use that excuse to get out of trouble. 

We are all human and capable of making errors...even doctors. You don’t want nurses that don’t question a weird order, you want nurses that will be able to say “something doesn’t look right, can you please clarify the order doctor”.







All of that's true.

Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:43 pm to
They love patting themselves on the back pretending whatever they like about what they do and fantasizing whatever they like about what i do, one of their fantasies is that I am not an MD. Just let them have it, they need it so damn badly. Lol.

PT and OT. Holy shite give me a break.

To waydown: go apply to med school if you want it so bad, dude. I can write you a recommendation if you like or you can shadow me. You might have to get over that can't deal with patients thing that you have though.

This post was edited on 4/21/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4493 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Laugh all you want. Physical therapy accepts 36 students, LSU med takes about 150


That's a shallow, idiotic comparison
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 4/21/19 at 2:47 pm to
Nothing in your last post is incorrect, finally.
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