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Washington Post: workers at tech have advocated for better rights to little avail
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:03 pm
Amazon's win in Alabama is latest victory in power struggle between tech giants, workers
From Wikipedia:
From Wikipedia:
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In October 2013, the Graham family sold The Washington Post to Nash Holdings, a holding company established by Jeff Bezos, for $250 million
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:04 pm to UndercoverBryologist
Tell them to learn to code.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:06 pm to fr33manator
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Tell them to learn to code.
If automation is an inevitability, knowing how to program machines might become a virtual necessity...but you still have to earn a living to put food on the table while you learn programming.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:19 pm to UndercoverBryologist
It’s going to be pretty problematic for society when we eventually have to say anyone with an IQ under 100 or whatever basically doesn’t have a useful function
This post was edited on 4/11/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:20 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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If automation is an inevitability, knowing how to program machines might become a virtual necessity...but you still have to earn a living to put food on the table while you learn programming.
When we automate creativity and create full-fledged sentient, AI machines, we might have a problem then.
I'm no Luddite, but it'll be weird to have a national discussion on granting rights to machines...and what if the machines become supremacist?
...But that's probably a problem for my great-great-great grandchildren, and I don't really care about them.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:22 pm to Ross
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It’s going to be pretty problematic for society when we eventually have to say anyone with an IQ under 100 or whatever it ends up being basically doesn’t have a useful function
What do you propose we do? The person who specialized in covered wagon repair lost his job when cars became a thing. People learn to adapt or die. It's the only way forward.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:24 pm to UndercoverBryologist
I have no suggestions. We already have this issue with anyone with an IQ below 80, which corresponds to a pretty meaningful portion of the population as it stands.
UBI is often presented and will probably be inevitable, but there are going to be psychological issues I think when half your population simply do not serve a useful purpose for sustaining the society.
UBI is often presented and will probably be inevitable, but there are going to be psychological issues I think when half your population simply do not serve a useful purpose for sustaining the society.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:25 pm to UndercoverBryologist
How dare those workers vote to not pay union dues from their checks to support a union boss who doesn't do any of the work.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:26 pm to Ross
quote:You already don’t.
It’s going to be pretty problematic for society when we eventually have to say anyone with an IQ under 100 or whatever it ends up being basically doesn’t have a useful function
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:27 pm to Ross
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UBI is often presented and will probably be inevitable, but there are going to be psychological issues I think when half your population simply do not serve a useful purpose for sustaining the society.
We already have a form of UBI in place, it just only applies to disadvantaged and less wealthy people. The main issue I have with UBI is the fact it'll become another bogged down government program, and again we won't all receive the same amount per year, it'll be the earners giving to the takers.
In short, we provide a security blanket to some, and a way of life to more on the hope they won't just turn around and burn our shite.
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:28 pm to Ross
quote:so basically 98% of the poli talk board
eventually have to say anyone with an IQ under 100 or whatever it ends up being basically doesn’t have a useful function
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:28 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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What do you propose we do? The person who specialized in covered wagon repair lost his job when cars became a thing. People learn to adapt or die. It's the only way forward.
Yea, people love to talk about “when” automation happens.
It’s been happening for over 100 years. Tractors and other farm equipment have probably caused the largest loss of jobs in history. This is one of the reasons the Mississippi River Delta is so poor.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:28 pm to Ross
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but there are going to be psychological issues I think when half your population simply do not serve a useful purpose for sustaining the society.
We are starting to see the strains already with about 25% or more in this category.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:31 pm to Ross
IQ under 100? We have poop scooping work for you in Frisco.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:32 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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People learn to adapt or die.
we're advancing society WAY past what humans evolved to do
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:33 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Yea, people love to talk about “when” automation happens.
It’s been happening for over 100 years. Tractors and other farm equipment have probably caused the largest loss of jobs in history. This is one of the reasons the Mississippi River Delta is so poor.
Raise your children to be life-long learners. Tell them they can't become complacent with their job skills.
There's still the potential for automation to become so uncontrollable that barely anybody can stay ahead of the curve, but as long as it is possible to do so, teach your kids to stay ahead of the curve and don't become complacent.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:34 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Raise your children to be life-long learners. Tell them they can't become complacent with their job skills.
this means shite to people under a certain IQ
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but as long as it is possible to do so, teach your kids to stay ahead of the curve and don't become complacent.
again, this only goes as far as their natural ability
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:37 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:39 pm to msutiger
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I just don’t believe this is the same thing. Unless there is something to prevent it, so many jobs will become automated and I’m sorry but “frick off and learn to code” is not going to be the answer. At some point there are too many programmers. There won’t be enough jobs for the amount of people in our society. We aren’t there yet, but it is really a conversation we need to be having now. Our government is so reactive to stuff like this when it needs to be proactive.
The only way I guess is UBI, or something equivalent to UBI, but for all practical purposes is still UBI (make-work programs, etc.)
Posted on 4/11/21 at 1:40 pm to UndercoverBryologist
UBI plus an expanded gig economy will support this group in the future.
Probably something that continues to increase until we are all expendable. A race to the bottom.
Probably something that continues to increase until we are all expendable. A race to the bottom.
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