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re: Washington Post: Delta Variant no more concerning for children than original strain

Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:34 am to
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:34 am to
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The doctors say the risk for children is the same as a normal flu season


which is even false
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13342 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:36 am to
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It’s funny

The doctors say the risk for children is the same as a normal flu season

Then they say mask your fricking 3 year old. So, are they effectively saying we should have always masked our kids?


First, I agree masking kids is dumb as frick.

But I think their argument is to mask kids mainly to stop the spread so it doesn't reach more people in more vulnerable groups.

It's all dumb because those people have every chance to get vaccinated.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94939 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:36 am to
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which is even false

Seems pretty similar to me

350 covid Peds deaths last year

Flu averages 400 usually

I think a lot of kids get minor flu cases just like covid, you just never tested your kid before the year 2020 when he had a slight sniffle
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94939 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:38 am to
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But I think their argument is to mask kids mainly to stop the spread so it doesn't reach more people in more vulnerable groups.

Not yelling at you, but I’m going to yell at people that have that opinion

It’s not my 3 year old and 5 year olds burden in life to protect an adult. They need to take their own precautions
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 8:40 am
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9637 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:39 am to
We’ve ruined our world over old and fat people because China fricked up.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64147 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:40 am to
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and outdoors is safer than in.


It blows my mind that people are even talking about a virus and being outdoors.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:40 am to
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“Kids do fine with masks.

What world do these idiots live in?
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They’re vulnerable and want to get back to hanging out with friends. Masking will allow them to do that.”

They're not vulnerable, this sentence is totally contradicted by this entire article. This is bizarre that people don't notice this.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:41 am to
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But I think their argument is to mask kids mainly to stop the spread so it doesn't reach more people in more vulnerable groups.



THEN THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD GET THE VACCINNE!

Christ why is this so fricking hard!? If you are afraid of it, get the shot so the rest of the goddamned world can go on living.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:44 am to
I'll say this as a vaccinated person, a person that believes in ultimate vaccine choice, a person that thinks the vaccine is very safe, and a parent of an 8 yr old.

Anyone that gives this vaccine to a child under the age of 18 (and at that point the individual's choice kicks is) should be evaluated for clinical insanity. It is simply a nuisance for most children that get it. The hospitalization and death numbers for that age group bear that out. I don't worry about my unvaccinated daughter going anywhere unmasked and unvaccinated....this includes school, camp, etc.

When I hear that dumbass doctor from BR on JBE press conference last week say she would put her sub-16 year old child into a clinical trial for the vaccine if it came for BR I about lost my shite.....it that happens her child should be taken by DCFS.....I mean who willingly puts their child in a situation that has any chance (even .00000001%) to kill them. I certainly could not do it.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16334 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:44 am to
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First, I agree masking kids is dumb as frick.

But I think their argument is to mask kids mainly to stop the spread so it doesn't reach more people in more vulnerable groups.

It's all dumb because those people have every chance to get vaccinated.

Is it then a toddler's responsibility to mask up during flu season to protect other toddler's & the elderly? Is it their responsibility to mask up during RSV season to protect those under 2?

Like you said, it's pretty dumb because anyone this is at risk has had the opportunity to take proactive measures to protect themselves. Sadly, most people think the only avenue is the vaccine; however, if they don't address their comorbidities the vaccine will only be able to go so far to protect them
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94939 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:44 am to
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Salmon
remember the next time you vote which party wants to muzzle your children, remember which party fought to pull your kids out of school

Remember that.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16334 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:45 am to
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We’ve ruined our world over old and fat people because China fricked up.


Saying they fricked up implies they made a mistake. Considering they are getting what they wanted, did they make a mistake?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:46 am to
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remember the next time you vote which party wants to muzzle your children, remember which party fought to pull your kids out of school

Remember that.

Not saying it directed at Salmon, but most people won't do that.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13342 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:46 am to
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Not yelling at you, but I’m going to yell at people that have that opinion

It’s not my 3 year old and 5 year olds burden in life to protect an adult. They need to take their own precautions


I 100% agree. I'm just clarifying what I think they're arguing in the article. I'm not masking my kids.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83532 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:48 am to
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remember the next time you vote which party wants to muzzle your children, remember which party fought to pull your kids out of school

Remember that.


you people really have no idea my voting habits

I've voted for a "D" twice in my life, and both have been for super local positions for people that I actually knew (one was my neighbor) and neither were anything close to progressive Democrats

I've voted "R" the vast majority of my life, with "L" and "I" sprinkled in here and there
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13342 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:48 am to
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THEN THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD GET THE VACCINNE!



I agree.

Literally my next sentence in the post everyone refused to finish reading:

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It's all dumb because those people have every chance to get vaccinated.



Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:48 am to
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But I think their argument is to mask kids mainly to stop the spread so it doesn't reach more people in more vulnerable groups.


With the option for those people to get vaccinated that argument goes out the window. I'm all for ultimate vaccine choice, but in that choice you have to consider that no other group is going to take any "mitigation measures" to protect you. You can now protect yourself.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51255 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:50 am to
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frick that article. Forcing masks on kids triggers the frick out of me.



They also act like unmasking in schools is some uncharted territory even though there is a huge dataset from the shite ton of schools that had a normal school year last year with no masks.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43319 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:53 am to
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They're not vulnerable, this sentence is totally contradicted by this entire article. This is bizarre that people don't notice this.



This sounds like you're a Science denier. Why do you deny The Science?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13342 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:57 am to
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With the option for those people to get vaccinated that argument goes out the window. I'm all for ultimate vaccine choice, but in that choice you have to consider that no other group is going to take any "mitigation measures" to protect you. You can now protect yourself.


Another poster that refused to actually read my post. My god guys. Im literally agreeing with all of you
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