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re: Washer & Dryer recommendations?
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:22 am to Will Cover
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:22 am to Will Cover
We went with top loading whirlpool cabrio and the deciding factor between brands was the rebate offered. no problems. we are getting used to not having an agitator and not seeing a full tub of water in there.
to your wife's defense, they installed a nonmatching (but close) pair of not the same brand. spouse and MIL did not notice, but it irritated me so I had them come back with the right match.
to your wife's defense, they installed a nonmatching (but close) pair of not the same brand. spouse and MIL did not notice, but it irritated me so I had them come back with the right match.
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Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:46 am to Will Cover
Why in the freak did washers go front load anyways? It's inevitable they will leak. You're fighting gravity and water, as they say..if you try to fight water, water will always win. Have also heard many times they do not wash thoroughly.
Thanks Napoleon for the advice and rec in this thread. Will be in the market soon.
Thanks Napoleon for the advice and rec in this thread. Will be in the market soon.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:10 pm to Marco Esquandolas
$4K for a washer?
What could possibly make that price worth it in a non-commercial environment?
What could possibly make that price worth it in a non-commercial environment?
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:31 pm to Will Cover
Speed Queen. They sell 2 or 3 models..... no bells and whistles just a basic industrial stregnth washer that works! They make washers for laundromat. The home model is basically the same thing without a coin counter.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:33 pm to N2cars
Great news to report. I unplugged the washer for 15 minutes, error code was cleared and now 1/2 way through wash cycle with no errors.
I realize this isn't a permanent fix, but if I can get all of my clothes washed today for my travel next week, I will consider it a success.
I realize this isn't a permanent fix, but if I can get all of my clothes washed today for my travel next week, I will consider it a success.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:34 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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Speed Queen. They sell 2 or 3 models..... no bells and whistles just a basic industrial stregnth washer that works! They make washers for laundromat. The home model is basically the same thing without a coin counter.
Now that I have a little time before I need to make another purchase to replace my LGs, Speed Queen will probably get my coin. All the reviews, plus Napolean's recommendation on here, appear to be the way to go.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:46 pm to Will Cover
I know of 5 people with speed queen washers and dryers and none of them have ever been repaired. Not much to look at but they work!
Posted on 2/15/15 at 1:29 pm to Will Cover
I read an article in the Advocate on Thursday titled:
Out With The Mold
High Effenciency washer technology requires clean start for user
puts the blame on the customer for using TOO much detergent. Manufacturers recommend 1-2 tablespoons of detergent. That's it. Do not use the maximum levels you see on the box or cup included. The new washers use very little water(you can thank Washington D.C. for that), and that's why less detergent is needed.
When too much detergent is used the soap is not fully rinsed from the machine. The rubber gasket in the door becomes the perfect environment for dark, smelly mold.
I hate my front loader. I hate that I have to keep the door open All the time. I hate that I now have to buy special cleaning tablets and HE detergent. I wish I would have kept my old washer from the 90's.
Out With The Mold
High Effenciency washer technology requires clean start for user
puts the blame on the customer for using TOO much detergent. Manufacturers recommend 1-2 tablespoons of detergent. That's it. Do not use the maximum levels you see on the box or cup included. The new washers use very little water(you can thank Washington D.C. for that), and that's why less detergent is needed.
When too much detergent is used the soap is not fully rinsed from the machine. The rubber gasket in the door becomes the perfect environment for dark, smelly mold.
I hate my front loader. I hate that I have to keep the door open All the time. I hate that I now have to buy special cleaning tablets and HE detergent. I wish I would have kept my old washer from the 90's.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:06 pm to tracytiger
Contractor friend recommended Roper. Said they run great and are cheap. Five years later running great and I paid like $300 when brand new. Very happy.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 2:31 pm to N2cars
Vette Guy,
If you ever have the chance to physically "touch and feel" a Meile appliance , you will understand the pricing.
The fridge, for example...the door hinges and drawer gliders are effortless and beyond sturdy (absolutely no wobble or play), and smoother than one could imagine. The lighting is top notch. The layout of the interior is well thought out. And much like a Sub Zero, are designed to last for 20 years.
Much like a German performance car (or a $100k+ 'vette)--they are built to a higher standard. Many of the people buying them want better performance and are willing to pay for that luxury.
After burning through 3 Dyson vacuum cleaners in 7 years, I finally decided to seek out a better built machine. I bought a Lux by Aerus ($2k--canister type machine), and it is in another league. It will also last for 20+ years and can be serviced. In the long run, replacing the Dyson every 3 years is more expensive.
Meile also makes a fantastic upright vacuum which runs about $1k, and you can feel the quality after 10 seconds of use.
If you ever have the chance to physically "touch and feel" a Meile appliance , you will understand the pricing.
The fridge, for example...the door hinges and drawer gliders are effortless and beyond sturdy (absolutely no wobble or play), and smoother than one could imagine. The lighting is top notch. The layout of the interior is well thought out. And much like a Sub Zero, are designed to last for 20 years.
Much like a German performance car (or a $100k+ 'vette)--they are built to a higher standard. Many of the people buying them want better performance and are willing to pay for that luxury.
After burning through 3 Dyson vacuum cleaners in 7 years, I finally decided to seek out a better built machine. I bought a Lux by Aerus ($2k--canister type machine), and it is in another league. It will also last for 20+ years and can be serviced. In the long run, replacing the Dyson every 3 years is more expensive.
Meile also makes a fantastic upright vacuum which runs about $1k, and you can feel the quality after 10 seconds of use.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 3:06 pm to Marco Esquandolas
Thanks for the great post.
I am of the opinion that you (generally) get what you pay for.
I hate re-buying stuff and I definitely see your point with vacuum cleaners.
Can't pay too much for a car or gun, IMO, just not sure about a washer.
I am of the opinion that you (generally) get what you pay for.
I hate re-buying stuff and I definitely see your point with vacuum cleaners.
Can't pay too much for a car or gun, IMO, just not sure about a washer.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 3:19 pm to Will Cover
Kenmore is supposed to be really good. If i have to get a set i want the washer to be a top loader. Dont want the mold problems of a front loader.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 5:06 pm to Napoleon
I just bought a whirlpool top loader for~$700. Thanks to this thread, I talked my wife out of the front loader. 
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:56 am to Napoleon
Digging this up only because I had laundry issues yesterday. The splitter in my water line busted and spewed water all over my washer and house. Needless to say I think it shorted something in the control panel. It comes in and was spinning, but not draining. Now it comes on and does nothing but fill with water.
Control panel is $250 plus shipping and all that, it's a 5 year old Maytag Bravo.
Been looking at replacing it instead of fixing. I think the tub bearing is going out as it was getting loud on the spin cycle also.
How do you determine if a whirlpool has the Vmax drive system? Tried googling it, but whirlpools website doesn't mention vmax that I've found so far.
Control panel is $250 plus shipping and all that, it's a 5 year old Maytag Bravo.
Been looking at replacing it instead of fixing. I think the tub bearing is going out as it was getting loud on the spin cycle also.
How do you determine if a whirlpool has the Vmax drive system? Tried googling it, but whirlpools website doesn't mention vmax that I've found so far.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:00 am to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:
Kenmore is supposed to be really good.
Kenmore hasn't built an appliance in over thirty years.
ALL Kenmores are made by another company. Most laundry units are Whirlpool. (if model number starts with 110 it's whirlpool. 456 it's Frigidaire. etc)
They don't make anything at all.
Whirlpool makes good units, as does Maytag, and the ones with that Sears sells say Kenmore.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:01 am to Will Cover
I have LG and love them. I hear a lot of good things about the Samsung washer and dryers also. Maytag is also always a solid bet
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:05 am to Col reb 2011
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The one I bought off their the washer crapped out after 2 months guy said nothing he could do
Well that one bad experience surely means there is nota single reputable seller on Craigslist.
I bought a Kenmore Elite w/d off craigslist for $300 back in 2010. Still work great.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:06 am to kengel2
quote:
5 year old Maytag Bravo.
= Whirlpool Bravos line = Cabrio = biggest lemon design in the last decade.
Honestly I bought a four year old one for $20 yesterday that had a bad bearing. I could fix it for $75 (wholesale) but I will chop it for parts, because I cannot bear to sell these things to someone knowing they may not even last a year after refurbishment.
Now if you want a control panel to fix it for a couple of years, I suggest used. seriously.
where is that price from? There are better buying options out there. What's the model number? $250 seems high (that's closer to retail and online should never be retail)
Though Blue Book guide says it's a $400 job installed.
As far as telling Vmax from Bravos. All Bravos (and Cabrio can use wither Bravos or Vmax) systems are rotor/stator only, No belts, no motor. Vmax can be either a motor or a rotor stator. But the rotor stator design is much better. We were told for 2015 that the Bravos line no longer has a Hall senor on the stator which will help out longevity a good bit. Other improvements have been made as well. I haven't had the chance to work on many new ones as I don't like warranty work if I can help it.
It's really hard to steer someone to one unit over the other because I can't name one brand besides Speed Queen that doesn't have a high electronics fail rate. Yes Miele is great, but very expensive too.
It's hard to say what to get, because I only see the failures, so so many good units go unnoticed by me.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:08 am to LNCHBOX
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Well that one bad experience surely means there is nota single reputable seller on Craigslist.
I bought a Kenmore Elite w/d off craigslist for $300 back in 2010. Still work great.
Find a local shop that will warranty their used units. I have been contacted by many of the NOLA metro shops to repair their units and come to find that very few seem to have a tech on payroll. It's baffling.
But you can also get great deals on CL.
Just have to know that with washers and dryers the designs that last peaked in 2003. Units made between 1994 and 2003 can easily be made to last decades. Units made after Energy star restrictions in 2003 have more issues. In the name of efficiency we have units that are more expensive to repair and have a higher fail rate.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:12 am to Tigerstudent08
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Maytag is also always a solid bet
they are getting better. A Maytag is basically the Whirlpool of two years ago, but refined.
Whirlpool = Innovations
Maytag = Dependability
same company, but different visions, as you can suspect innovations can lead to failures, while Maytag generally fixes issues found before, the Bravos system has been ripe with flaws.
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