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Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:57 am to Shiftyplus1
If the initial warning wasn't ignored we would have been ready. IF my aunt had nuts she's be my uncle.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:00 am to The Boat
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whole Pacific Fleet was just destroyed at Pearl Harbor
No
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:07 am to The Boat
Midway stunts Japanese expansion, guadalcanal is the beginning of the end for the Japanese. We ground them down on guadalcanal and bled them white. That was a much closer campaign than people realize.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:14 am to Jim Rockford
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The bold stroke at Pearl Harbor was the exception rather than the rule.. Japanese commanders often showed timidity, occasionally losing their nerve on the verge of victory.
I think Japanese naval commanders are slightly overrated in revisionist history. Between this episode at Midway, and the full scale retreat during the Battle of Samir in Leyte Gulf, it's hard to argue anything other than they were giant pussies.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:24 am to TheGasMan
oBAMA being elected was the classic F U
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:27 am to Shiftyplus1
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If the Japanese had taken the time, flown about a mile further inland, and taken out the massive fuel depots we had at Pearl, things might have gone much, much differently. If our carriers were there AND they had taken out the fuel depots, Japan could have invaded the mainland, because we would have had no way to stop them.
But remember, we still would have had the Cajun Navy.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:40 am to mofungoo
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Halsey
Your conclusions were wrong. Halsey acted stupidly.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:44 am to elprez00
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Your conclusions were wrong. Halsey acted stupidly.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:03 am to The Boat
I don't consider a victory, big or small a FU. The burning of Atlanta seems to be more along the lines of an FU.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:09 am to The Boat
Salamis
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:11 am to The Boat
I think Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the biggest FUs...
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:13 am to The Boat
Loving these history threads. I was just hypothesizing at the bar last night. A friend of mine was going on about how Truman should have gave McArthur the reigns to wreck shite all over North Korea and we wouldn't be dealing with this shite today.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Awesome movie
"...in SENSURROUND!!"
damn I'm old
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:45 am to The Boat
Belgium letting the salt water flood their lands during ww1
Basically told the Krauts that they would rather wreck their shite than allow Germans a chance at strategic advantage. THAT is a F U
Basically told the Krauts that they would rather wreck their shite than allow Germans a chance at strategic advantage. THAT is a F U
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:46 am to The Boat
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The battle of Midway is said to be the most decisive victory in the history of naval warfare.
We got very lucky at Midway, try reading a book about it.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:47 am to TheGasMan
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I think Japanese naval commanders are slightly overrated in revisionist history. Between this episode at Midway, and the full scale retreat during the Battle of Samir in Leyte Gulf, it's hard to argue anything other than they were giant pussies.
We had a better navy than they did. They learned that the hard way all across the Pacific.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:06 am to mofungoo
Last Stand Of The Tin Can Sailors is one of the best books I've ever read re the Pacific naval maneuvers and one epic struggle to survive.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:05 am to Cosmo
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Nagasaki was an FU
Pretty much the single biggest FU in history.
Even after Hiroshima the Japanese still wanted to call the shots on their surrender. After the FU that was Nagasaki though, Hirohito bent the knee with the quickness.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:13 am to The Boat
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The whole Pacific Fleet was just destroyed at Pearl Harbor then a few months later we kick their arse and stop their expansion. Not more F U than that.
That's kind of a stretch, chief. Seem to have left some very important ships.
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