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re: Was rural/ small town America ever nice?

Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:22 am to
Posted by BorrisMart
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:22 am to
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Covington was like that


My grandparents are old af and grew up in Livingston Parish and will always talk about going down to Covington to get them strawberries. Covington probably got a lot of transplants from New Orleans and Baton Rouge I would assume and it grew. Seemed nice the few times I have been.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:23 am to
Which towns?
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:23 am to
It seems somewhat unfair to reference places like that in the same breath as the general “small town”.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:26 am to
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It seems somewhat unfair to reference places like that in the same breath as the general “small town”


well find me any small town that is currently still thriving that doesn't have some type of tourism industry or is a de facto suburb for an more urban area...

you are not going to find many, if any today

Posted by windshieldman
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:27 am to
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well find me any small town that is currently still thriving that doesn't have some type of tourism industry or is a de facto suburb for an more urban area...


Ruston?
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:29 am to
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well find me any small town that is currently still thriving that doesn't have some type of tourism industry or is a de facto suburb for an more urban area...

you are not going to find many, if any today
Exactly.

That was generally what Scruffy was getting at.

The suburbs of major city centers are inherently different than the idea of a once self-sufficient small town, at least ISO.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:30 am to
Ruston is a college town

if we are going to remove de facto suburbs, seems we would have to remove college towns too
Posted by Packer
IE, California
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:30 am to
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well find me any small town that is currently still thriving that doesn't have some type of tourism industry or is a de facto suburb for an more urban area...


Define thriving. Many of the small towns I know that are doing well and are exactly like what the OP describes are farming communities and/or have a manufacturing business to go along with it. Are they booming? No, but are far from crumbling.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:30 am to
Rural/Small town America is still a better life style than large cities. Cities are decaying, full of crime, poor education, awful air and water. When did this narrative begin that large cities are somehow better than rural/small town America? I think this is the battle you are seeing play out in real time American politics. The media is indoctrinating people to believe that a better quality of life is in large cities...which couldn't be further from the truth.

Posted by BorrisMart
La
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:30 am to
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small town that is currently still thriving


There aren't a ton. But a lot of small towns, at least in CenLa and North La, are still somewhat thriving off of oil and gas and timber (and related components of those industries). However it all depends on how you define "thriving." A lot of people in these small towns make a ton of money working off shore or on land rigs far off, but that isn't really the result of the town itself. But with the oil field, it largely fluctuates. Perhaps there will be a resurgance of small town prosperity in the coming future.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:31 am to
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The suburbs of major city centers are inherently different than the idea of a once self-sufficient small town, at least ISO.


well I don't consider a lot of the small towns in the NE to be actual suburbs, as a lot of people don't live there year round

so a little different
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:31 am to
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Cities are decaying, full of crime, poor education, awful air and water.


The same is being said about small town and rural America

So, are both cities and towns decaying?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:32 am to
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Ruston is a college town


Good point

Seems every time I go there a new business or neighborhood is being built.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:32 am to
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Rural/Small town America is still a better life style than large cities. Cities are decaying, full of crime, poor education, awful air and water.


crime in small town/rural American is rising at a faster rate than urban America FWIW
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:33 am to
Ruston has exploded since I went to college at Tech 16 years ago
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:33 am to
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well I don't consider a lot of the small towns in the NE to be actual suburbs, as a lot of people don't live there year round

so a little different
Yea, that’s a completely different monster in and of itself.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:34 am to
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So, are both cities and towns decaying?

Yes
Why suburbs are the best (like where you live Montauk)
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 11:35 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:37 am to
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When did this narrative begin that large cities are somehow better than rural/small town America? I think this is the battle you are seeing play out in real time American politics.



The rural/urban divide has been part of American culture since the early 1900's.

quote:

Cities are decaying, full of crime, poor education, awful air and water.


And this fear mongering has been a big part of it for that long as well.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:39 am to
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Montauk


perfect example of area that isn't really a suburb but survives off people owning homes from urban areas

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