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re: Was Jim Morrison actually a good poet?
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:10 am to prplhze2000
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:10 am to prplhze2000
Jim was a pretentious douche who had the poetic chops of a 10th grade girl who has glittery unicorn posters that glow in black light in her room at her mom and step-dad's house.
I love the Doors, but a spade is a spade.
I love the Doors, but a spade is a spade.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:13 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:Ray provided the best electric organ sound in rock music, and the other three were good enough to not ruin it.
He was shite.
The whole band was shite.
They were also shite individually.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:24 am to TigerGman
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Hotel Motel Murder Madness

Motel Money Murder Madness
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:39 am to Kafka
Y'all are so full of crap. Jim was a brilliant poet and front man. I copy and pasted below an article on his Literary influences. Keep in mind that he is going through these books in his teens and early twenties when you and I are reading As I Need To Know I Learn in Kindergarten by Fulghum.
Nietzsche killed Jim Morrison,” John Densmore, drummer of the Doors, wrote in his 1990 autobiography Riders on the Storm. Before the rock poet’s infamous death in Paris at the age of 27, Morrison was known as much for his unpredictable onstage antics as his devotion to literature and hero mythology. The band’s name was taken from Aldous Huxley’s The Doors of Perception, itself a reference to a William Blake poem, and Morrison infused much of his lyrics with references to Nietzschean philosophy and other readings.
Morrison’s teenage bedroom was walled with books, and he’d make a game of turning his back, having a friend pick something at random and reciting a line or two. Of the hundreds in his collection, Morrison could name the author and title before they finished a paragraph. A high school friend remembers Morrison as a bit of an outcast who took deeply to his readings: “He had tons of books over there in his basement room and I’d go over there and look at them and I didn’t have a clue as to what most of that stuff meant. Morrison devoured that stuff when he was a teenager and he was in another world and you have to wonder how that affected him. The whole point is that he was so far advanced in terms of literature he took in and he really seemed to become what he read sometimes.”
And an English teacher recalls his more eccentric literary choices: “Everything he read was so completely offbeat. I had another teacher who was going to the Library of Congress to check to see if the books Jim was reporting on actually existed or he was making it up. English books on sixteenth and seventeenth-century demonology…Other kids were reading authors represented in our anthology, and Jim was reading Burton’s studies on Arab sexuality.”
Threaded through any Morrison biography is a far-reaching reading list of Romantic poetry, nihilistic philosophy, Shamanic mysticism, Beat classics and tales of tragic heroism. Find a selection of Jim Morrison’s book collection below, and complement with his 1968 improvised piano ode to Nietzsche.
The Theater and Its Double by Antonin Artaud
Giovanni’s Room by James Baldwin
Complete Poetry & Prose by William Blake
Life Against Death by Norman O. Brown
Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs (also rec’d by Anthony Bourdain & Bob Dylan)
Nova Express by William S. Burroughs
The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
The Fall by Albert Camus
The Plague by Albert Camus
The Stranger by Albert Camus
Crowds and Power by Elias Canetti
Go by John Clellon Holmes
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad (also rec’d by Patti Smith)
Gasoline by Gregory Corso
Studs Lonigan by James T. Farrell (also rec’d by Tom Wolfe)
A Coney Island of the Mind by Lawrence Ferlinghetti
Howl by Allen Ginsberg (also rec’d by Bob Dylan, John Lennon & Patti Smith)
Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes by Edith Hamilton
The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce (also rec’d by Leonard Cohen & Susan Sontag)
Dubliners by James Joyce (also rec’d by Leonard Cohen & Ernest Hemingway)
Ulysses by James Joyce
Big Sur by Jack Kerouac
Doctor Sax by Jack Kerouac
The Dharma Bums by Jack Kerouac
On The Road by Jack Kerouac (also rec’d by Bob Dylan, David Bowie & John Lennon)
The Subterraneans by Jack Kerouac
Why Are We In Vietnam? by Norman Mailer
The Adept by Michael McClure
Death Is A Star by Agnes Michaux
The Power Elite by C. Wright Mills
The Birth of Tragedy by Friedrich Nietzche
Dionysus: Myth and Cult by Walter F. Otto
Parallel Lives by Plutarch
The Function of the Orgasm by Wilhelm Reich
The Lonely Crowd by David Riesman
Complete Works by Arthur Rimbaud
The Strange Last Voyage of Donald Crowhurst by Nicholas Tomalin & Ron Hall
The Outsider by Colin Wilson
Nietzsche killed Jim Morrison,” John Densmore, drummer of the Doors, wrote in his 1990 autobiography Riders on the Storm. Before the rock poet’s infamous death in Paris at the age of 27, Morrison was known as much for his unpredictable onstage antics as his devotion to literature and hero mythology. The band’s name was taken from Aldous Huxley’s The Doors of Perception, itself a reference to a William Blake poem, and Morrison infused much of his lyrics with references to Nietzschean philosophy and other readings.
Morrison’s teenage bedroom was walled with books, and he’d make a game of turning his back, having a friend pick something at random and reciting a line or two. Of the hundreds in his collection, Morrison could name the author and title before they finished a paragraph. A high school friend remembers Morrison as a bit of an outcast who took deeply to his readings: “He had tons of books over there in his basement room and I’d go over there and look at them and I didn’t have a clue as to what most of that stuff meant. Morrison devoured that stuff when he was a teenager and he was in another world and you have to wonder how that affected him. The whole point is that he was so far advanced in terms of literature he took in and he really seemed to become what he read sometimes.”
And an English teacher recalls his more eccentric literary choices: “Everything he read was so completely offbeat. I had another teacher who was going to the Library of Congress to check to see if the books Jim was reporting on actually existed or he was making it up. English books on sixteenth and seventeenth-century demonology…Other kids were reading authors represented in our anthology, and Jim was reading Burton’s studies on Arab sexuality.”
Threaded through any Morrison biography is a far-reaching reading list of Romantic poetry, nihilistic philosophy, Shamanic mysticism, Beat classics and tales of tragic heroism. Find a selection of Jim Morrison’s book collection below, and complement with his 1968 improvised piano ode to Nietzsche.
The Theater and Its Double by Antonin Artaud
Giovanni’s Room by James Baldwin
Complete Poetry & Prose by William Blake
Life Against Death by Norman O. Brown
Naked Lunch by William S. Burroughs (also rec’d by Anthony Bourdain & Bob Dylan)
Nova Express by William S. Burroughs
The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
The Fall by Albert Camus
The Plague by Albert Camus
The Stranger by Albert Camus
Crowds and Power by Elias Canetti
Go by John Clellon Holmes
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad (also rec’d by Patti Smith)
Gasoline by Gregory Corso
Studs Lonigan by James T. Farrell (also rec’d by Tom Wolfe)
A Coney Island of the Mind by Lawrence Ferlinghetti
Howl by Allen Ginsberg (also rec’d by Bob Dylan, John Lennon & Patti Smith)
Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes by Edith Hamilton
The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce (also rec’d by Leonard Cohen & Susan Sontag)
Dubliners by James Joyce (also rec’d by Leonard Cohen & Ernest Hemingway)
Ulysses by James Joyce
Big Sur by Jack Kerouac
Doctor Sax by Jack Kerouac
The Dharma Bums by Jack Kerouac
On The Road by Jack Kerouac (also rec’d by Bob Dylan, David Bowie & John Lennon)
The Subterraneans by Jack Kerouac
Why Are We In Vietnam? by Norman Mailer
The Adept by Michael McClure
Death Is A Star by Agnes Michaux
The Power Elite by C. Wright Mills
The Birth of Tragedy by Friedrich Nietzche
Dionysus: Myth and Cult by Walter F. Otto
Parallel Lives by Plutarch
The Function of the Orgasm by Wilhelm Reich
The Lonely Crowd by David Riesman
Complete Works by Arthur Rimbaud
The Strange Last Voyage of Donald Crowhurst by Nicholas Tomalin & Ron Hall
The Outsider by Colin Wilson
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:54 am to Kafka
quote:
Motel Money Murder Madness
Opps! It's really early or really late, depending...
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:09 am to prplhze2000
quote:I believe a combo of drugs and mental health had a lot to do with his poetry.
Or is it just hype because he is well, Jim Morrison?
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:21 am to prplhze2000
This came up on a Stuff You Should Know episode recently.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 5:01 am to prplhze2000
I don’t think he’s some kinda poetic genius, no. But I’ll be damned if he didn’t write catchy tunes.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 5:20 am to xiv
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 8/26/19 at 5:32 am to Porkchop Express
I eat more chicken any man ever seen
Posted on 8/26/19 at 5:59 am to prplhze2000
Do you hope to make her see, you fool?
Do you hope to pluck this dusky jewel?
Do you hope to pluck this dusky jewel?
Posted on 8/26/19 at 6:21 am to prplhze2000
“It’s my mind and I think what I want”. Would get him banned in today’s america. I think that’s his line and I’m not googling to find out.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:59 am to Picayuner
Denis Leary summed him up the best...
I'm drunk, I'm nobody
I'm drunk, I'm famous
I'm drunk, I'm dead.
I'm drunk, I'm nobody
I'm drunk, I'm famous
I'm drunk, I'm dead.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:01 am to TigerBR1111
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Always seemed like drug induced nonsensical rambling to me but I guess others will call it genius.
Pretty much nailed it (this also applies to other so-called great songwriters), but that nonsense was awesome when put to music.

Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:10 am to Nativebullet
Enjoying an eclectic reading list does not make one a brilliant poet. In fact I'd bet a significant amount of those stories are embellished because he is deceased.
He wrote some decent lyrics but nothing to get excited about. He did what was needed to bring about an entertaining rock band.
He wrote some decent lyrics but nothing to get excited about. He did what was needed to bring about an entertaining rock band.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:14 am to MiDixon Yermouth
quote:I think Kreiger wrote the lyrics.
2) Hello, I love you
The Doors were a unique sound and stood out at the time. I like them, Ray M was a musical genius.
Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:37 am to prplhze2000
Yes.
On a side note, once while in Paris I was approached an artist (up by Sacre Cour) that was a dead ringer for Jim Morrison. The dude was in the typical "homeless artsy" attire complete with scraggly beard and long hair. Addidionally, he was about the age JM would have been were he still alive today. We basically talked about Native
American culture etc.
Below is a pic of JM from back in the day with a beard. In short, this guy looked just like him but older, wearing glasses, and homeless looking. It was aa short (15 minute) but interesting conversation I had with this dude...whomever he was.
pic of JM sporting a beard
On a side note, once while in Paris I was approached an artist (up by Sacre Cour) that was a dead ringer for Jim Morrison. The dude was in the typical "homeless artsy" attire complete with scraggly beard and long hair. Addidionally, he was about the age JM would have been were he still alive today. We basically talked about Native
American culture etc.
Below is a pic of JM from back in the day with a beard. In short, this guy looked just like him but older, wearing glasses, and homeless looking. It was aa short (15 minute) but interesting conversation I had with this dude...whomever he was.
pic of JM sporting a beard
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 8/26/19 at 8:54 am to prplhze2000
quote:
Was Jim Morrison actually a good poet?
Smoke my wine and drink my herb.

Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:05 am to prplhze2000
The Doors are a gift to us all
Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:47 am to Minnesota Tiger
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My reading of his biography 30 years ago left me with the impression that he was an immature self absorbed prick.
Describes every male I've know during some part during their life, including me.
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