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re: Wall Street CEOs - Get off my law-err, back to the office!
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:07 pm to DiamondDog
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:07 pm to DiamondDog
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get back to advancing my career.
Really not related to WFH but I've gone as far as I care to in the corporate world. I'd stay in my current or similar role the remainder of my career
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Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
The WFH debate draws attention to how there are essentially two types of employees.
Disengaged, job hopping "what's in it for me" types who just do the bare minimum, don't engage with their coworkers, and aren't nearly as busy as they will often claim to be "hence all the doing laundry, watching TV, etc on company time.". This is unfortunately the majority of the workforce.
Then you have people who are engaged with their work that enjoy collaborating in-office with their teammates who are often too busy to enjoy the amenities of home anyway.
The only valid criticism for returning to the office is those who have long commutes to offices in big cities with bad traffic.
Disengaged, job hopping "what's in it for me" types who just do the bare minimum, don't engage with their coworkers, and aren't nearly as busy as they will often claim to be "hence all the doing laundry, watching TV, etc on company time.". This is unfortunately the majority of the workforce.
Then you have people who are engaged with their work that enjoy collaborating in-office with their teammates who are often too busy to enjoy the amenities of home anyway.
The only valid criticism for returning to the office is those who have long commutes to offices in big cities with bad traffic.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:12 pm to Stonehog
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Anything but work
Oh, so you’re stealing
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:24 pm to NIH
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Oh, so you’re stealing
Yeah it’s called time theft. frick em!
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:24 pm to DiamondDog
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I enjoy the family flexibility of WFH. If my kids sick, I can just be daddy day care but I've got to get back to advancing my career. I been treading water for a while now and it's impossible doing that in my field WFH.
Not worth it, spend time with your kids. No one on their death bed wishes they had worked more.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:37 pm to 3nOut
Let me guess - number of calls tracked by sales, you're brought on because the salesperson is an idiot who needs to set up meetings for their numbers and can't explain anything?
One of my favorite memories is watching a small business, business partner, ending a meeting because it was a waste of time
One of my favorite memories is watching a small business, business partner, ending a meeting because it was a waste of time
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:43 pm to MJackson
WFH is a tough position for executives. On one hand, for the right employees it is worth its weight in gold and likely keeps them from looking around. On the other hand, certain employees do not have the ability to WFH, whether due to a shitty home environment or lack of ability to operate without being supervised. Those employees are a nightmare to handle.
I personally started WFH last year. It's great that my office is a 30-second commute and I am not spending an hour each day traveling to an office to do exactly what I do at home. The difficult part is your work and home are nearly one and the same now. It has made me find other outlets to force me to leave the house, otherwise, I wouldn't see the outside world for five days straight.
I personally started WFH last year. It's great that my office is a 30-second commute and I am not spending an hour each day traveling to an office to do exactly what I do at home. The difficult part is your work and home are nearly one and the same now. It has made me find other outlets to force me to leave the house, otherwise, I wouldn't see the outside world for five days straight.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:45 pm to mjthe
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Let me guess - number of calls tracked by sales, you're brought on because the salesperson is an idiot who needs to set up meetings for their numbers and can't explain anything?
Nah.
We’re a small business, about 5 people VAR cybersecurity.
A few of our products I don’t support technically but my boss always wants me on just in case things come up. I do installs on about 4 of our 6 products but some don’t allow for channel/partner enablement.
So I guess you could say “sales idiots who can’t explain anything” could be a fair but not entirely accurate description.
We have plenty of competitors who don’t have any technical employees, so we have a non OEM engineer on staff that stays certified on all our products just in case.
I’m also in-house IT and Salesforce DBA.
Again, we’re a company of 5 people with about $7mm in sales so we run really lean.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:48 pm to MJackson
I left my last job over Covid mandates and found a fully remote role. It has allowed me to be out at our property and working on remodeling that house, which I never could have done commuting downtown. I work my billable hours, generate work, make the company money, and I’m able to get 3-4 hours of work on remodeling done a day. I won’t ever work downtown again, but I have 25 years of experience and the ability to generate enough work to keep me and others billable.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:48 pm to TigersSEC2010
We have one employee that takes advantage of it. I had already been in this job a long time when Covid came around so it really wasn't difficult for me to stay productive.
Much of my job is very task oriented though and generally done alone. It would be quite obvious if I was seriously slacking.
Much of my job is very task oriented though and generally done alone. It would be quite obvious if I was seriously slacking.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:48 pm to TigersSEC2010
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WFH is a tough position for executives. On one hand, for the right employees it is worth its weight in gold and likely keeps them from looking around. On the other hand, certain employees do not have the ability to WFH, whether due to a shitty home environment or lack of ability to operate without being supervised. Those employees are a nightmare to handle.
It broadens the pool of prospective hires. A tiny startup in South Dakota can hire developers and executives from all over the us/world.
It's also a great perk for tenured employees.
It mostly just boils down to people being lazy though.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:52 pm to Dr RC
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Aww poor babies are mad they are having to pay upkeep for buildings that aren't needed as well as all the property they bought up for themselves to rent out that are sitting vacant now?
We have a winner! This is the real reason they're so upset.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 2:54 pm to 3nOut
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:32 pm to MJackson
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I WFH now and I can emphatically say that I do next to nothing. The same would be the case if I had to go in to a physical location, but then I'd have to wear pants.
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It’s great isn’t it? I take my daughter to daycare and then do whatever I want until I pick her up. Golf, biking, run errands, take naps. Anything but work really.
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same
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I probably dick off more in the office to be honest.
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People are worthless on Mon and Fri. It’s amazing what has become acceptable in the last couple of years.
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Nobody does anything on Monday because it’s Monday and if it’s Friday it can wait until next week.
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Yup. I would easily spend an hour a day or more talking non work stuff with my coworkers, or be drug into gossip etc
Easily over an hour a day when there are a bunch of us in the office. Probably more.
Can’t wait for the next “teachers are overpaid and need to work more” thread.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:53 pm to StringedInstruments
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Can’t wait for the next “teachers are overpaid and need to work more” thread.
If they didn’t whine constantly those threads wouldn’t exist. The only bigger whiners are nurses and waitresses. Hmm, I think I’m sensing a pattern…
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:01 pm to MJackson
Half of the Manhattan firms that started work from home are having a mutiny on their hands because mid level and lower level workers aren't wanting to come in. At least at many law firms and a Big4 or two.
ETA: the people I know still working from Southern states out of NYC offices aint lazy, they are up half the night on calls and having to work. But that is in the M&A sector, not at Big Banks or Brokerages, so I can't speak for that.
ETA: the people I know still working from Southern states out of NYC offices aint lazy, they are up half the night on calls and having to work. But that is in the M&A sector, not at Big Banks or Brokerages, so I can't speak for that.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:07 pm to Stonehog
Our hybrid approach is finally working well. We were able to jettison our lazy asses and replace them so we are now in a good spot.
Actually we have one more to go. She was given 6 months to find a new job but she was lazy like she was with every thing else and let the employee friendly job market pass her by. She asked for another 60 days as she’s done at the end of Feb., we said no, she cried. Tough. Don’t suck. Her replacement starts Monday.
Actually we have one more to go. She was given 6 months to find a new job but she was lazy like she was with every thing else and let the employee friendly job market pass her by. She asked for another 60 days as she’s done at the end of Feb., we said no, she cried. Tough. Don’t suck. Her replacement starts Monday.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:54 pm to MJackson
I’m a loser so most of my social life is through work and now it sucks balls with people not going to the office.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:07 pm to AUCE05
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Gotta be careful. If you get paid a lot of money and work from home, people will start to ask if you are really needed
This is so not true for jobs that require brain power. In every one of these threads you get blue collar workers making comments in generalities without understanding the types of jobs that can work from home.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:42 pm to MJackson
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