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re: Walgreens pharmacist denies pregnant woman miscarriage medication over his ethical beliefs

Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:47 am to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:47 am to
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Completely irrelevant.



How is that irrelevant?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:49 am to
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him doing that DID NOT make him fail at his duties.



when you allow personal convictions to get in the way of your duties, you fail at your duties

Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:50 am to
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The woman herself said on CNN that he offered to send the prescription to another Walgreens.


Article in OP: “The pharmacist arranged for her to pick up the Misoprostol the next day at another Walgreens located 20-minutes away”

Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:50 am to
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People in here seem to think the pharmacist is capable of performing an ultrasound to verify the woman's story.

Is he dumb enough not be able to operate a telephone? It certainly seems like it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:51 am to
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I’m confused - what your position is on this? Sounds like you are suspicious of her for some reason.


Nurse hates women.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:51 am to
It's an attempt at relating human nature to you.

Cab you explain why he failed other than your feelings? The board of pharmacy will say he didn't. The law says he didn't. The customer said he didn't in her own words when she explained the situation. Just because you think he should have done it anyway doesn't mean he failed. It's just your opinion. And the ones that matter, IE pharmacy board, say you're wrong.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:51 am to

These guys will semantics your arse to death, won't they?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:53 am to
No, not that.


Just saying....people act like her not taking this med right away would have killed her. And that isn’t the case that is all.

I feel for the woman....but can’t help but wonder if she is trying to find a reason to get attention on here. I mean....going on CNN? Wanting to be in news articles? A day or 2 after passing your dead fetus? I get people deal with grief in different ways though.

If she is saying that the pharmacist offered to send the med to another location after he refused her....I don’t see the story here. He followed policy.

Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:53 am to
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Pharmacists are not medicine vending machines

Yes, yes they are. They dispense what a Dr prescribes unless it interacts with another med the patient is currently on.
I am 100% against abortion when it isn't medically necessary. This jackass should, as a pharmacist, know that this medication isn't just for that and if not should have called the Dr office to verify. But he was on his moral high horse and wouldn't admit he might be wrong.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:54 am to
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when you allow personal convictions to get in the way of your duties, you fail at your duties


He doesn't have a duty to fill this prescription.

You say you think he should have the right to refuse but then you say he's a failure for doing so. You make no sense.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:56 am to
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If she is saying that the pharmacist offered to send the med to another location after he refused her....I don’t see the story here. He followed policy.



God forbid we actually ask that our pharmacists follow up with the doctors writing prescriptions if there are ethical questions.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:56 am to
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Article in OP: “The pharmacist arranged for her to pick up the Misoprostol the next day at another Walgreens located 20-minutes away”


And on her fb post she admits that she got an email right after leaving the Walgreens Thursday saying her prescription was ready for pick up at another location. Sounds like SHE decided to go pick it up the following morning.

See what I mean....she is saying different things in each one(article, fb, and CNN).
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86220 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:56 am to
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t's an attempt at relating human nature to you.


I understand human nature. We fail a lot.

I don't understand why some get angry if we point out those failures.

I fail. You fail. We all fail from time to time.

We learn from those failures when we recognize how we failed.

Not by placating each other.

quote:

Cab you explain why he failed other than your feelings?


He failed at his duties because a customer had to wait the next day and drive 20 minutes out of her way to get the things she needed, all because of his personal convictions.



Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:57 am to
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Yes, yes they are.


No they're not. The fact that you think so shows your ignorance.

quote:

he was on his moral high horse and wouldn't admit he might be wrong.


About that...
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:57 am to
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when you allow personal convictions to get in the way of your duties
his personal convictions gave his duties direction.

saying that, you are insinuating it is his duty to fulfill any script he gets no matter what.....IE forced to fulfill it. IE the whole thing i have ben arguing.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:57 am to
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He doesn't have a duty to fill this prescription.


He SHOULD have a duty to do his due diligence and get the truth before making professional judgement.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86220 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:57 am to
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He doesn't have a duty to fill this prescription


What is the duty of a pharmacist?

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You say you think he should have the right to refuse but then you say he's a failure for doing so. You make no sense.


I don't understand your confusion.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:58 am to
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He failed at his duties because a customer had to wait the next day and drive 20 minutes out of her way to get the things she needed, all because of his personal convictions.


So you're trying to argue that her convenience is now his duty? Seriously?
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:58 am to
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but can’t help but wonder if she is trying to find a reason to get attention on here. I mean....going on CNN? Wanting to be in news articles? A day or 2 after passing your dead fetus? I get people deal with grief in different ways though. 


What a shitty thing to say. She lost a baby. WGAF why she felt compelled to post on Facebook. Attention... here's yours.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 11:58 am to
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Pharmacists are not medicine vending machines

Yes, yes they are


quote:

They dispense what a Dr prescribes
that have a doctorate just like MDs
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