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re: Waking up early is rooted in white supremacy.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:03 pm to BugAC
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:03 pm to BugAC
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So you don't have a real job?
Incorrect.
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Correct. So how do you have a collaborative meeting across different time zones if we must wait for you to wake up?
Don't think you've thought this one through.
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If you're a drug dealer, yes.
So, if I get something done late the night before and you get something done early the day of, you're the more productive one?
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:04 pm to Slippy
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I kept looking for evidence that this was satire. Couldn't find any.
Really, it reads like a meh Jr. High or maybe freshman H.S. essay. Full of vague generalities and not even trying to tie evidence to claims.
I'm seeing more and more poorly written pieces as time goes on.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:05 pm to Methuselah
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Really, it reads like a meh Jr. High or maybe freshman H.S. essay. Full of vague generalities and not even trying to tie evidence to claims.
I'm seeing more and more poorly written pieces as time goes on.
Have you seen your average college "graduate" the past ten years or so?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:07 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Is that meeting more productive at 8 am than at 10 am?
Depends on length of meeting. But holding a 2 or 3 hour meeting at 10 am is pretty annoying. Most people are more productive in the morning than later in the day.
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This doesn't really prove any point other than it is so engrained in us that you have to get up early to be productive, that it is all how anyone operates.
So if you get up at 11 am, for example. You get to work at noon. You work an 8 hour day. You are finished at 8 at night.
I assume you don't have a wife or kids. Because that is not conducive to a productive home life.
Secondly, it's "engrained in us" since the beginning of TIME. You think the egyptians slept until 11? Sun up to sun down was when work happened. We are day creatures. When men hunted, it was during the day becuase they could see and the dangerous animals were less active.
We are supposed to ignore thousands of years of what it is to be human, because you smoke too much pot and can't wake up at a decent time?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:07 pm to Centinel
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Standard hours exist for a reason.
Never said it didn't exist for a reason, just that it is generally outdated when you are tying it to the perception of one's inherit work ethic.
Are you saying you see someone that works 7-3 as more productive than someone that works 10-6?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:08 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The "8-5" doesn't exist anymore by and large. The only thing that really ties "standard hours" currently is the market and banks
I'd argue the opposite. If anything it feels like since the return from covid more places are becoming hard asses about "core hours" and restricting telecommuting. At least in the engineering and construction fields that I'm familiar with in the BR and Louisiana area.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:08 pm to CocomoLSU
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If everything is racist (and that seems to be where we're heading), then nothing is actually racist.
I've been saying this for quite a while now. Insanity.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:09 pm to Slippy
America needs a wake-up call.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:10 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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So, if I get something done late the night before and you get something done early the day of, you're the more productive one?
Yes. Because i'm home before sun down. I can do chores outside, play with the kids outside, make dinner all before sun down. You ever heard of the circadian rhythm?
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A circadian rhythm, or circadian cycle, is a natural, internal process that regulates the sleep–wake cycle and repeats roughly every 24 hours.
You are advocating that biology is outdated because you want to sleep in?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:10 pm to BugAC
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So if you get up at 11 am, for example. You get to work at noon. You work an 8 hour day. You are finished at 8 at night.
I assume you don't have a wife or kids. Because that is not conducive to a productive home life.
Not sure why you are operating under the assumption that someone has to work this way. My point was simply that it is an outdated notion to tie a perception of someone's work ethic to whether or not they are an early riser.
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Secondly, it's "engrained in us" since the beginning of TIME. You think the egyptians slept until 11? Sun up to sun down was when work happened. We are day creatures. When men hunted, it was during the day becuase they could see and the dangerous animals were less active.
I mean, as already mentioned, there was a pretty good reason for this back then.
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We are supposed to ignore thousands of years of what it is to be human, because you smoke too much pot and can't wake up at a decent time?
Kind of part of being "outdated"
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:10 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Is that meeting more productive at 8 am than at 10 am?
This doesn't really prove any point other than it is so engrained in us that you have to get up early to be productive, that it is all how anyone operates.
Most people have jobs where they have to communicate with other humans. We generally have somewhat standard hours for that reason.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:12 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:12 pm to SuperflyLSU
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I'd argue the opposite. If anything it feels like since the return from covid more places are becoming hard asses about "core hours" and restricting telecommuting. At least in the engineering and construction fields that I'm familiar with in the BR and Louisiana area.
I wouldn't disagree here, but i'd still say overall hours are becoming much more flexible as the need for the majority of work being done within a strict, rigid timeframe is much less of a necessity with the ease of technology and communication.
Regardless, its not really the point I'm addressing. The idea that someone that gets up super early being more productive than someone that gets up later but stays up later is outdated, simple as that. If you get the same work done in a day, the time of day you start and finish is irrelevant and has no bearing on your work ethic.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:13 pm to SpotCheckBilly
Author sounds about how you'd expect someone to flagrantly flaunt white supremacy mantra bullshite.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:14 pm to Beauw
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Pretty hard to get a field plowed if you don't wake up until 11:00
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Agriculture and its related industries provide 10.5 percent of U.S. employment.
I'm not sure if that's a particularly good argument regarding the overwhelming majority of this country
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:15 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The need to get your work done while the sun is up is a silly concept. just because someone is up before most and getting things done does not make them more productive than someone that stays up after everyone and gets things done. The time of the day is irrelevant.
Not all people that sleep in are lazy. But most people that sleep in are lazy. It’s a stereotype and stereotypes are generally correct.
I’m posting this from my couch in my PJs at 1pm on a Thursday. The only thing I’ve done today is make an omelet. If I get a wild hair up my arse I may wash the pan later.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:15 pm to fallguy_1978
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Most people have jobs where they have to communicate with other humans. We generally have somewhat standard hours for that reason.
Sure. Not arguing otherwise.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:15 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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it is an outdated notion to tie a perception of someone's work ethic to whether or not they are an early riser.
I disagree. It's really up to each individual, but there is a reason the stereotype for early risers exist.
Personally speaking, if i get a bunch of things at work or at home complete before noon, i feel pretty good about the rest of the day. If i waited until 10 to start working, i would feel differently.
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Kind of part of being "outdated"
By that definition, speech is pretty "outdated" but we shouldn't do away with it because some people are introverts.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:15 pm to Slippy
Damn white people and their
shuffles deck, pulls card
Waking up early
shuffles deck, pulls card
Waking up early
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:17 pm to Slippy
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he idea that waking up early is a sign of a superior work ethic and a key to success serves to reinforce racial inequalities in several ways.
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By promoting the notion that anyone can achieve success if they simply work hard and wake up early, it ignores the structural racism that has created and maintained these inequalities.
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