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re: Waco Biker Shooting - Twin Peaks Video Released
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:41 pm to craig8sm
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:41 pm to craig8sm
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Lots of douchebaggery in this thread. Reminds me of the tattoo thread.
That's how these threads go. You've got a small subset of doucehbags who hate bikers and loathe me so they come here to vent their frustrations in safety. They do the same thing in every one of these Biker threads.
Honestly, with the level of animosity some here show toward bikers, I wonder why they save all their vitriol for these threads instead of just going out and finding some random biker and giving him a piece of their mind face to face.
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:43 pm to Darth_Vader
You sure do think highly of yourself... And bikers for that matter. Who are you?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:44 pm to Deactived
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When they arrested the 177 bikers at Twin Peaks the cops filled out "fill in the blank" felony warrants and had a Justice of the Peace (not even a real judge) put a $1,000,000 bond on everyone of them.
Owned.
Link?
quote:
A hearing Thursday for a disabled Gatesville Army veteran who rides with the Cossacks Motorcycle Club included a strong challenge to the probable cause used to arrest 177 bikers in the wake of the May 17 Twin Peaks shootout.
Ronald Atterbury’s attorney, John H. Jackson, who also is a former state district judge from Corsicana, attacked the probable cause reported in Atterbury’s arrest warrant affidavit, which is identical to the others used to detain bikers en masse after the melee that left nine dead and 20 injured.
Officials used identical documents, labeled “cookie-cutter” by defense attorneys, changing only the names, to apply the same conduct to all those jailed.
quote:
Jackson called Waco police Detective Manuel Chavez as a witness to describe how the affidavits were drafted. To obtain the arrest warrants, Chavez swore before a judge as to their content. He testified Thursday that the document was written by prosecutors in the McLennan County District Attorney’s Office on the day of the shootout.
Chavez admitted he didn’t know if Atterbury, 45, committed any of the offenses alleged in the affidavit and acknowledged that the affidavit does not accuse Atterbury specifically of any wrongdoing besides being a member of the Cossacks.
“Is membership in one of those organizations a crime?” Jackson asked. Chavez answered, “No.”
“You did not furnish any information to Judge (Pete) Peterson that my client committed any crime, did you?” Jackson asked.
Chavez said, “No, sir.”
Peterson, a justice of the peace, issued the arrest warrants and set $1 million bonds for each biker.
LINK
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:45 pm to Darth_Vader
pretend to be a thug
get treated like a thug
get treated like a thug
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:47 pm to ell_13
quote:
You sure do think highly of yourself... And bikers for that matter. Who are you?
I'm just an old biker. Vice President of the Chapter of the Motorcycle Club I've been a member of for 20+ years. We're a three piece patch club, not 1%er, and don't claim any territory other than what's listed on my mortgage.
The main reason I bother with these threads is to try and dispel some of misconceptions about bikers and motorcycle clubs in general. Are there criminal elements in the biker world? Well, yes, of course there are. But not all bikers, not even all 1%ers for that matter are criminals.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:48 pm to Darth_Vader
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“He committed the offense of engaging in organized criminal activity by associating with a criminal street gang and showing up with other members of an organized street gang where a melee ensued, involving another organized street gang. Is that right?” Luce asked.
“That is correct,” the detective replied.
Jackson again questioned Chavez.
“You did not set out specific allegations in those affidavits for any of these 177 people that would lead a judge to believe that any of them committed any offense at all, did you?” Jackson asked. “Does it bother you that a lot of people were locked up because of your affidavit that doesn’t allege any criminal act by any of these 177 people?”
His question drew an objection from Luce, and Jackson withdrew it.
Johnson ruled that probable cause was sufficient to support Atterbury’s arrest.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:48 pm to MSMHater
You have to love it when the trash takes itself out. The cops should have just sprayed that place with bullets.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:49 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
pretend to be a thug
get treated like a thug
Being a biker and attending a COC meeting does not make one a thug.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:51 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
Honestly, with the level of animosity some here show toward bikers, I wonder why they save all their vitriol for these threads instead of just going out and finding some random biker and giving him a piece of their mind face to face.
You and I both know the answer to that.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:52 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:oh
Vice President of the Chapter of the Motorcycle Club I've been a member of for 20+ years. We're a three piece patch club, not 1%er, and don't claim any territory
quote:You seem to be pretty defensive specifically about this incident.
The main reason I bother with these threads is to try and dispel some of misconceptions about bikers and motorcycle clubs in general.
quote:And this wasn't the case in Waco?
Are there criminal elements in the biker world? Well, yes, of course there are.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:53 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
They have blue collar jobs that pay VERY well.
So, O&G.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:53 pm to Darth_Vader
Darth they will never change their minds and most are to scared to go hang out at an event, much less talk to some bikers. Oh well. SYLB
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:54 pm to craig8sm
quote:
Honestly, with the level of animosity some here show toward bikers, I wonder why they save all their vitriol for these threads instead of just going out and finding some random biker and giving him a piece of their mind face to face.
You and I both know the answer to that.
You're right. I was being a bit obtuse. I just find all the keyboard warriors and message board bad-asses amusing.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:54 pm to Agforlife
too*
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:57 pm to Agforlife
quote:
most are to scared to go hang out at an event, much less talk to some bikers.
Is that even allowed? For a civilian/outsider to show up at a motorcycle club event?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:57 pm to Agforlife
quote:Too scared?
to scared to go hang out at an event, much less talk to some bikers. Oh well. SYLB
Why do you think a normal person would want to do either of those things?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:58 pm to Five0
It sucks that I have merely one thumbs up to give.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:58 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
Being a biker and attending a COC meeting does not make one a thug.
No. But starting a brawl and having that many weapons in possession certainly does.
Did passionately protest the mass arrests during the Ferguson riots as well?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:00 pm to ell_13
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This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 3:03 pm
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