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re: VW exploring possible partnership or merger with Ford

Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:26 pm to
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This would have been Henry Ford's dream back in the '39.



America's biggest Nazi partnering with VW. Definitely.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105151 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:26 pm to
All things considered, even cheating at the tests their quality is still better than Ford and Chrysler Fiat.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58618 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:27 pm to
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but the fines and their poor quality trucks and SUV's are putting them in serious dire straits
the TDI Touareg are great.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175643 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:27 pm to
Usually when companies like this merge the brands remain distinct

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71162 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:28 pm to
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Those the diesels from the emissions scandal


Yep. The sad thing is that those are excellent cars that consumers would love to buy, but they're not allowed to sell them, so they have to just sit in these holding lots and rot. It's a real shame that so many affordable, fuel-efficient, reliable vehicles are being kept off the market by our wonderful government regulators in the U.S. and EU.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71162 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:29 pm to
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the TDI Touareg are great.


That's a crossover on a car chassis, not an SUV which would be on a truck frame. The Volkswagons are doing great with everything on a car chassis, but floundering to produce truck-based vehicles. Ford has the opposite problem.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:29 pm to
Putting Chrome nuts on my a8
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94675 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:30 pm to
two shitty companies in one!

just when i thought ford couldn't lower the bar any further after acquiring range rover's lemons.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58618 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:31 pm to
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That's a crossover, not an SUV.
uummmmmm then what SUV are you talking about?

Before the elimination of the Touraeg and the introduction of the Atlas, VW at the Tiguan and the Touareg....So what vehicles are you talking about?
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Volkswagon's sedans are doing fantastic, but the fines and their poor quality trucks and SUV's are putting them in serious dire straits.

The Atlas is selling like crazy
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58618 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:33 pm to
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The Atlas is selling like crazy

he is gonna come in and say that is a cross over. Maybe he should have specified if he is talking about VW's subsidiaries SUV, ie LandRover.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:33 pm to
I think Ford would be a huge drain on VW.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58618 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

I think Ford would be a huge drain on VW.



ford trucks should break off like Ram did.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

ford trucks should break off like Ram did.


Yep. When they finish killing all those craptastic Ford cars, trucks will be all they have.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:38 pm to
Maybe GM can substantial stakes in ford. That would give Ford an avenue into China, and would give GM a back channel into Western Europe.

I don’t like the idea of yet another struggling American car company to be under European leadership.
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58618 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Maybe GM can substantial stakes in ford.
man ford/chevy fights would be great after that.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94675 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:40 pm to
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Before the elimination of the Touraeg and the introduction of the Atlas, VW at the Tiguan and the Touareg..


they eliminated the touraeg because it sucked balls.

my son was a VW mechanic for a year and he would come home and laugh about how crappy the current VWs are..the touraeg was literally a steaming pile of shite. the local VW in brentwood TN has tons of 15, 16, 17 & 18 touraegs in all the configs (hybrid, diesel, gas, etc.) still sitting around in random parking lots because they all need some kind of EXPENSIVE SERVICE so they can be sold due to the emissions scandal and other shitty problems. the dealer can literally only get to a few of them at a time and then they're put on the lot and sold as 'new'.

he said he'd rather gouge his eyeballs out than do an oil change on a touraeg.

i cant remember if its the atlas or not but one of the newer vehicles has a PLASTIC oil pan.

what coud possibly go wrong?
This post was edited on 10/19/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by NoBoBullDog
Member since Aug 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:43 pm to
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The Focus may be the worst car on the market today. The ancient Taurus isn't far behind. There is a reason Ford is giving up on cars. They suck at it.

Now cmon baw...that’s just dumb! The Fusion is a solid sedan, Mustang is killing Camaro right now, the Focus ST is a great ride, Taurus SHO was good. There are several cars that are far worst including Chevy Sonic.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

The Volkswagons are doing great with everything on a car chassis, but floundering to produce truck-based vehicles. Ford has the opposite problem


Ford is struggling in every market but the F-150 pickup. Even their crossovers and SUVs are getting curb stomped by the Japanese and General Motors.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/19/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Taurus SHO was good


This Taurus generation was a shite car when it was introduced 9 years ago. It hasn’t gotten better with age.
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