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re: Video seems to show Mississippi man drowned on a bet to win car payment

Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:07 am to
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:07 am to
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I can pretty much guarantee you that you think numerous LSU football players shouldn't exist then if you think those that can't swim over stagnant water shouldn't exist. I've seen some great athletes that could do amazing things on the field, but didn't know how to swim. A lot of black people don't know how to swim because their parents/family never learned to swim and no one ever taught them for whatever reason. If it was as natural as you think to everyone, people wouldn't spend so much on swimming lessons.

Brandon Bass was several years into his NBA career before he learned to swim

Celtics Forward Brandon Bass Learns to Swim at Age 28
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:10 am to
It was pretty important to my parents that we all learned how to swim at a young age. Pretty much all of my friends knew how to swim in elementary school. Guess that's a white people thing?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:14 am to
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Guess that's a white people thing


I know that Graucho was being Graucho up above but he may have a bit of truth with what he’s saying. There has been some talk/belief (I don’t know if any real research was ever done) that the average black people have more dense muscle compared to the average white person and that it makes them more likely to sink than to float. Couple that with fear/panic and it leads to more drownings.

Again, no idea how true that is.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:18 am to
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Guess that's a white people thing?


Asians and Hispanics can swim.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:20 am to
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The love of money is the root of all evil.
The King James version of the Bible is such a poor translation and that's a good example. Keep in mind there are no "the"s in the original text language.

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:23 am to
I know some black people who can swim but it certainly seems like a larger percentage can't or never learned vs other races. I'm just thinking and off of the top of my head I don't know any adult that can't swim.

My 13 yr old daughter could have easily swam that distance.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:25 am to
I wonder if he cramped up or something because it doesn’t seem far, or maybe he had a panic attack.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:25 am to
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was pretty important to my parents that we all learned how to swim at a young age. Pretty much all of my friends knew how to swim in elementary school. Guess that's a white people thing?




I’d imagine those broke and in urban environments don’t do many beach trips or backyard pool parties, regardless of race.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:33 am to
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That scenario is an interesting case for psychological and social factors that can affect the decisions we make. The hope for a car that could likely better his life was enough for him to risk it all. Saddening.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:33 am to
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You are one ignorant individual. Most parents get their kids swimming lessons to prevent them from drowning. Many kids are scared of swimming lessons you fricking moron. Damn you’re stupid.


I’m not sure the two arguments are mutually exclusive.

They don’t want them to drown and swimming is fun. If you were totally landlocked she had no friends with pools your fear of drowning is pretty minimal. If you live in a community doing beach trips, boat days, pool parties etc... the desire to have them around and not dying becomes a bit more key.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:34 am to
I'm sure their parents didn't send them to Crawfish Aquatics or whatever but my wife never had formal swimming lessons either. She's not a great swimmer. It just seems like they'd have learned to keep their head above water at least in a community pool at some point.
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 10:34 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:36 am to
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or maybe he had a panic attack

Looks to me like he completely panicked when he realized he couldn't touch any longer. I guess none of the bystanders were confident enough to go in after him.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26352 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:37 am to
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I'm sure their parents didn't send them to Crawfish Aquatics or whatever but my wife never had formal swimming lessons either. She's not a great swimmer. It just seems like they'd have learned to keep their head above water at least in a community pool at some point.

Yeah bro. Swim lessons seems like a middle class white people thing. Think my dad taught me the basics of swimming at some low grade Biloxi motel
This post was edited on 5/25/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:37 am to
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I wonder if he cramped up or something because it doesn’t seem far, or maybe he had a panic attack.



I think he just reached a point that he couldn't touch bottom anymore and had to actually swim.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32432 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:41 am to
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Think my dad taught me the basics of swimming



Think we may have just discovered a part of the problem.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:44 am to
That was sad. His friends will never live it down. Just horrible.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12254 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:03 am to
In Germany, students had to prove they could tread water for one hour before leaving primary school. No exceptions (back then several decades ago.)

Friends in grad school from the midwest who were doing stuff along rivers decided to teach themselves how to dog paddle. Paddle boards at the UT swimming pool, swimming laps with the paddle boards until they found they didn't need the paddle boards.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:10 am to
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n Germany, students had to prove they could tread water for one hour before leaving primary school. No exceptions (back then several decades ago.)


You cannot graduate from MIT without passing a swimming test, period, no exceptions. They had a student drown in the early 60s, and decided that some of the smartest students in the world not being able to do something as simple as swim was unacceptable.
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