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re: Video of Kyle Rittenhouse making the rounds on Twitter *Updated in OP

Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:20 pm to
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Well he shot and killed a few people.


Who were trying to kill him.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:22 pm to
Don’t bother us with details please
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:27 pm to
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Don't assume gender, right?


shite! My bad!
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:28 pm to
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More women need their arse beat


Not by a man.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:30 pm to
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The passionate defense of this moron is where the poliboard jumped the shark for me. He was looking for a conflict and found it.



Wait. Did you think the Poliboard ever had intellectual integrity?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:31 pm to
Depends.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81664 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:31 pm to
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What if Rittenhouse was a black male ? How would you feel? Would he have been able to walk freely at 17 with an assault rifle? Would he still be a patriot?
If you reverse the races, it is black dude killing black people.

And then you are a racist for saying it is an issue, or even notable.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:33 pm to
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It isn’t self defense to shoot your way out of the scene where you just shot someone else. The bank robber who shoots his way out of the bank when people are trying to stop him isn’t entitled to a self defense plea.


Completely different situations. I’ve seen several videos of these incidents. There is no question he shot people. The question is if he was justified in the shooting or if it was wanton murder.

In the video of the first shooting it appears the person that was shot had been chasing Kyle and threw objects at him. Kyle appears to run away and only shot the guy when he got in his face, after chasing and throwing items at Kyle. The videos show the victim being aggressive and confronting people prior to being shot. He then chased Kyle and threw items at him and got aggressively close to Kyle when Kyle shot him. The question there is if the first shooting was self-defense or not. From the videos and statements it will be hard for the prosecutors to prove premeditation and malice.

The other shootings. The crowd was chasing Kyle after he shot victim number one. Kyle appears to be running to the cops when he fell. When he fell someone tried to curb stomp him, which can be considered attempted murder. Kyle fires two shots at him and missed. At that point a guy came and smashed Kyle in the head with a skateboard. Kyle shot him. Kyle is claiming self-defense there. The third guy approached Kyle and he had a gun. Kyle pointed his gun at him and the guy backed down. The guy then charges Kyle with weapon pointed and Kyle shot him in the arm. Kyle got up and scanned and saw no more threats then went to the cops. Kyle is claiming self-defense in all three shootings.

From the videos it seems to match up with self-defense. If the first shooting is self-defense then it will follow it was self-defense in the others too. This is different than attacking a person shooting up a bank as the bank shooter is attacking with malice and intention and not self-defense.

We will see how the jury decides. I do know this is a very sad situation all the way around and I hate people lost their lives. The violence in these riots are not justified and people from all sides are co-opting and legit cry for justice for their own nefarious reasons; both from the extreme left and extreme right. I hate all the violence. It’s so sad.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:38 pm to
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The statute says it is illegal and legislative intent shows that is what the law was meant to be. However, in 2005 the WI Legislature changed a subsection to clarify the underage hunting exception and in the process changed the meaning of the full section and made it ambiguous whether a 17yo (no other age but 17) could possess an otherwise legal long gun. Funny enough it didn't screw up the throwing star portion so it is 100% illegal for a 17yo to possess a throwing star in WI.


Good post. That clears up a lot. The way the statute reads is confusing and somewhat contradictory. If there are judicial precedents on this then it will be the standard applied. If not and it’s first impression then that is room for reasonable doubt
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20505 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:38 pm to
Which one is suppose to be him? Non of those guys have the same build as KR.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44121 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:39 pm to
You left out the parts where the first guy and skateboard guy both attempt to take the rifle from Kyle.

Skateboard guy actually had hands on the rifle, but couldn't get it away because of the sling.

Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
81664 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:43 pm to
My contention:

If this is him, and it is a strike against him. . .


. . .then it brings character into this, and the pedo, the skateboarding chick strangler, and the robbery comes into play

Kid still wins.

Still a hero
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13315 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:45 pm to
Good post

It's pretty obvious the fight video is him. That said what does it have to do with the case the kid is facing? Floyd literally on his way to death of a fentanyl overdose doesn't matter. Blake resisting arrest, walking through a tazing, and going into a car for the knife he said he had doesnt matter. Sterling with a gun in his pocket he was trying to get ahold of doesnt matter. None of their past crimes mattered. All that matters is what happened in each incident where shootings took place that claimed lives. In this particular one it's pretty clear the kid acted in self defense. He did what I would've done charges or not. He's alive. A couple of his attackers are not. Game set match
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
13613 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:07 pm to
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The passionate defense of this moron is where the poliboard jumped the shark for me. He was looking for a conflict and found it.



You're a fricking idiot. Kyle did us all a favor in taking 2 pieces of shite out of the population.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72799 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:14 pm to
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Well he shot and killed a few people.


As they chased him down with a skateboard and a pistol. You forgot that part conveniently. (Or likely you’re fine with lying)
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:16 pm to
He got in a fight at high school?!?! Oh noes!!
Posted by MsGarrison
Steele Town LOL
Member since Nov 2009
22366 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:18 pm to
His mother should be in jail. She’s a accomplice. You don’t run from a crime scene and go hide at home.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:20 pm to
You have a very apt username
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44121 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:20 pm to
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His mother should be in jail. She’s a accomplice. You don’t run from a crime scene and go hide at home.


Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72799 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 9:26 pm to
terrible and ignorant take. shut the frick up
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