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re: Victims of Las Vegas massacre could get up to $800 million in settlement with MGM
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:54 am to MrJimBeam
Posted on 10/3/19 at 11:54 am to MrJimBeam
Just slip the desk clerk $20 at check-in and they'll waive the resort fees every time, and you'll get an upgraded room too. This isn't some secret, it's a we'll known Vegas practice.
I went to a convention at the Wynn and told my coworker about this practice. We both brought our wives on the trip and my wife and I use this $20 trick every trip we go to Vegas. He didn't believe me.and we both checked in together for the convention (the company booked the all the rooms for 10,000+ attendees).
He refused to tip the check in clerk and got the standard room with resort fees but my wife and I paid no resort fees and we invited him and his wife up to the 3 bedroom suite we were upgraded to on the top floor with a private elevator.
I went to a convention at the Wynn and told my coworker about this practice. We both brought our wives on the trip and my wife and I use this $20 trick every trip we go to Vegas. He didn't believe me.and we both checked in together for the convention (the company booked the all the rooms for 10,000+ attendees).
He refused to tip the check in clerk and got the standard room with resort fees but my wife and I paid no resort fees and we invited him and his wife up to the 3 bedroom suite we were upgraded to on the top floor with a private elevator.
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:01 pm to TechDawg2007
How is MGM liable for the shooting?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:10 pm to DeafJam73
They gave the shooter access to their freight elevator to haul his really heavy luggage up to his room over several days and didn't ask any questions.
Or if you're a conspiracy but, MGM was complicit at a greater level than what they have revealed. I tend not to believe most conspiracy theories but this event is up there with the JFK assassination as far as explanation.
It's just unbelievable that a random dude would do this, especially when the level of planning that would go into this is impossible for 1 person to pull off and he has no clear motive. If we didn't have the media narrative of 'typical disgruntled white male' as a facade, any reasonable person would say this would've been a Muslim led terrorist attack.
Or if you're a conspiracy but, MGM was complicit at a greater level than what they have revealed. I tend not to believe most conspiracy theories but this event is up there with the JFK assassination as far as explanation.
It's just unbelievable that a random dude would do this, especially when the level of planning that would go into this is impossible for 1 person to pull off and he has no clear motive. If we didn't have the media narrative of 'typical disgruntled white male' as a facade, any reasonable person would say this would've been a Muslim led terrorist attack.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:15 pm to GoIrish02
quote:
They gave the shooter access to their freight elevator to haul his really heavy luggage up to his room over several days and didn't ask any questions.
I guess that’s a pretty good question to ask.
quote:
It's just unbelievable that a random dude would do this, especially when the level of planning that would go into this is impossible for 1 person to pull off and he has no clear motive. If we didn't have the media narrative of 'typical disgruntled white male' as a facade, any reasonable person would say this would've been a Muslim led terrorist attack.
I don’t really flirt around with conspiracies. Why would MGM help carry this out? What is there to gain?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:26 pm to DeafJam73
I'm not saying MGM helped out overtly, I think their main concern is limiting their exposure to the company.
However, MGM has to have video of everything and everyone who went into and out of that hotel related to the event that would explain a lot of the unanswered questions because the real story is unbelievable. At best, MGM is actively assisting in the cover up in concert with whatever deep state or terrorist front who perpetrated the event.
Plus, you have a media that asks no questions about the official story when there is ample evidence it is false or incomplete, yet has time to fabricate stories about the President all day long.
However, MGM has to have video of everything and everyone who went into and out of that hotel related to the event that would explain a lot of the unanswered questions because the real story is unbelievable. At best, MGM is actively assisting in the cover up in concert with whatever deep state or terrorist front who perpetrated the event.
Plus, you have a media that asks no questions about the official story when there is ample evidence it is false or incomplete, yet has time to fabricate stories about the President all day long.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:32 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:I was in Vegas a couple weeks ago and apparently I suck at poker.
Where does that money come from?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:54 pm to teke184
quote:Pretty sure he brought the bags up by himself 1-2 at a time over the course of a few days.
Not necessarily, but if you have one guy getting a room and it takes a goddamn forklift to bring up his luggage, it begs questions.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:56 pm to shel311
at people who actually think Paddock was the shooterPosted on 10/3/19 at 12:57 pm to slinger1317
quote:This is a pretty shitty comparison IMO
Same as the 9/11 fund that Jon Stewart was crying about
Posted on 10/3/19 at 12:59 pm to GoIrish02
quote:Definitely disagree with this.
especially when the level of planning that would go into this is impossible for 1 person to pull off
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:00 pm to TechDawg2007
why does MGM owe these people anything?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:02 pm to GoIrish02
quote:thats laughable.
especially when the level of planning that would go into this is impossible for 1 person to pull off
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:20 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Where does that money come from?
Tuesday?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:22 pm to CarRamrod
quote:I'd love to hear a reply of how this was logistically impossible for 1 person to pull off.
thats laughable.
All things considered and the scale of the act, it seems like this was relatively simplistic in nature to pull off.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:23 pm to slinger1317
quote:
Same as the 9/11 fund that Jon Stewart was crying abou
This statement made your whole post/thought process lose its credibility.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:48 pm to GoIrish02
quote:
It's just unbelievable that a random dude would do this
Is it though?
quote:
especially when the level of planning that would go into this is impossible for 1 person to pull off
How much planning do you think it takes to bring a bunch of guns into a hotel room over a few days, break a window, and start firing into a crowd below?
Posted on 10/3/19 at 2:01 pm to shel311
Does it seem reasonable that a nondescript middle 50s accountant suddenly develops connections with arms dealers to amass a huge arsenal, not to mention conjuring up the capital to buy this arsenal?
Then he happens to choose the perfect 2 rooms at the hotel with an elevated position to target this event, which also assumes he's already capable of the markmanship to inflict this damage despite no military background or training.
Then is able to transport hundreds of weapons into the hotel over several days with no one noticing (or somehow has access to areas of the hotel that avoid cameras) in a city that employs leading edge facial recognition and surveillance technology.
He also setup his own camera in the hotel hallway to watch his back while setting this up, a very savvy move from someone who we are supposed to believe is a lone wolf on a suicide mission.
These are all pretty high logistical hurdles to clear for a professional spook, let alone an average accountant who seemingly decided to do this on a whim with no training while avoiding all interaction with another human being who could've detected his plan.
Even Lee Harvey Oswald was a communist who was also trained by the Marines, this guy was just a regular dude with no rationale or skills to pull this off.
We already know his Muslim Filipino girlfriend wired him funds to buy the cache of weapons, but that fact and the entire story seems to have disappeared from the public eye completely.
Then he happens to choose the perfect 2 rooms at the hotel with an elevated position to target this event, which also assumes he's already capable of the markmanship to inflict this damage despite no military background or training.
Then is able to transport hundreds of weapons into the hotel over several days with no one noticing (or somehow has access to areas of the hotel that avoid cameras) in a city that employs leading edge facial recognition and surveillance technology.
He also setup his own camera in the hotel hallway to watch his back while setting this up, a very savvy move from someone who we are supposed to believe is a lone wolf on a suicide mission.
These are all pretty high logistical hurdles to clear for a professional spook, let alone an average accountant who seemingly decided to do this on a whim with no training while avoiding all interaction with another human being who could've detected his plan.
Even Lee Harvey Oswald was a communist who was also trained by the Marines, this guy was just a regular dude with no rationale or skills to pull this off.
We already know his Muslim Filipino girlfriend wired him funds to buy the cache of weapons, but that fact and the entire story seems to have disappeared from the public eye completely.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 2:06 pm to GoIrish02
quote:Some dude gunned down 58 people, and you're out here trying to make any part of it sound reasonable.
Does it seem reasonable that a nondescript middle 50s accountant suddenly develops connections with arms dealers to amass a huge arsenal, not to mention conjuring up the capital to buy this arsenal?
quote:You think that's a really difficult thing to do?
Then he happens to choose the perfect 2 rooms at the hotel with an elevated position to target this event
quote:Again, seems extremely easy to do
Then is able to transport hundreds of weapons into the hotel over several days with no one noticing
quote:Very basic stuff here, yet again.
He also setup his own camera in the hotel hallway to watch his back while setting this up, a very savvy move from someone who we are supposed to believe is a lone wolf on a suicide mission.
quote:It's literally the opposite of highly logistical.
These are all pretty high logistical hurdles
Posted on 10/3/19 at 2:06 pm to Ed Osteen
These conspiracy guys are fricking impossible and this thread will go 58 pages if we go down that hole. Perfect example:
Conspiracy guy: We demand video of every person who came and went from the room!
Hotel: We don’t have video of that hallway.
Conspiracy guy: A Ha!!! The hotel is in on it!!!!
Or.
Conspiracy guy: We demand video of every person who came and went from that room.
Hotel: Here is the video. Just Stephen Paddock is on it.
Conspiracy guy: A Ha!!! The hotel / CIA edited the tapes and they are all in on it.
Just take the leading theory these guys are promoting. That this was some sort of arms deal gone wrong. Where would the CIA and terrorists hold an arms deal? In the thousands of miles of open desert surrounding Las Vegas? Of course not. In a hotel where people might catch them doing the deal. It’s obvious. Besides who wants to do an arms dealer in a place where you could actually shoot and test the weapons? No way. Do it in a hotel.
Conspiracy guy: We demand video of every person who came and went from the room!
Hotel: We don’t have video of that hallway.
Conspiracy guy: A Ha!!! The hotel is in on it!!!!
Or.
Conspiracy guy: We demand video of every person who came and went from that room.
Hotel: Here is the video. Just Stephen Paddock is on it.
Conspiracy guy: A Ha!!! The hotel / CIA edited the tapes and they are all in on it.
Just take the leading theory these guys are promoting. That this was some sort of arms deal gone wrong. Where would the CIA and terrorists hold an arms deal? In the thousands of miles of open desert surrounding Las Vegas? Of course not. In a hotel where people might catch them doing the deal. It’s obvious. Besides who wants to do an arms dealer in a place where you could actually shoot and test the weapons? No way. Do it in a hotel.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 2:11 pm to GoIrish02
quote:arms dealers? you mean like academy, and cabalas, and mom and pop gun shops?
Does it seem reasonable that a nondescript middle 50s accountant suddenly develops connections with arms dealers
quote:or a good amount of people's spare room closet.
to amass a huge arsenal
quote:how expensive do you think guns are? even if they were, you said he is middle 50's account. you would think he has plenty of money to buy a few thousand dollars worth of guns.
not to mention conjuring up the capital to buy this arsenal?
quote:or every room on that side of a high rise building. but lest say those were the only 2, plenty of vegas regulars request the same room when they go there.
hen he happens to choose the perfect 2 rooms at the hotel with an elevated position to target this event
quote:
hich also assumes he's already capable of the markmanship to inflict this damage despite no military background or training.
realy hard to fire into a large crowd. quote:
Then is able to transport hundreds of weapons into the hotel over several days
he has 47. but you said he has several days. i mean he could have carried them in one by one and done that in a few hours. quote:have you been to a vegas hotel?
with no one noticing
quote:yea you can do that with a baby cam.
He also setup his own camera in the hotel hallway to watch his back while setting this up,
quote:well he was an accountant so he wasnt exactly a retard.
a very savvy move from someone who we are supposed to believe is a lone wolf on a suicide mission.
quote:no that arent.
These are all pretty high logistical hurdles to clear
quote:do we? or did you read this on another spook website?
We already know his Muslim Filipino girlfriend wired him funds to buy the cache of weapons,
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