re: Verdict: FLA July '18 'Stand Your Ground' - M. Drejka guilty in death of M. McGlockton

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The threat was retreating. Had the threat advanced I would say justified. The video shows me he shot when the threat was no longer imminent.

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In slow-motion, this "retreat" is pretty minimal. In fact, from the point of the shove and during the shooter's fall and roll, the "victim" takes TWO small steps TOWARD the shooter.

And again, in slow-motion, the "victim" does cease this advance as he sees the shooter reach for something, and "victim" does take a defenseless stance, but for a fraction of a second.

At this point, yes, the shooter should have rethought his next move. But he was absolutely in a flight or fight situation, and in a fraction of a second, he chose wrong.

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If he was backing up you don’t shoot. If he was still going forward you shoot

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My initial response was about following quote:

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Also never looked like he kept going after him after the initial push

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Regardless had shooter fired immediately in close to 1 motion of pulling gun out of pocket after being shoved to the ground with the guy initially coming at & over him again while pulling up waste of pants/shorts I don’t think I would have found him guilty as it would have happen too quick to notice him stopping & beginning to back up & McGlockton still relatively close. But that’s not when he fired and he waited to fire until it was clearer that McGlockton had backed away enough to give shooter time to wait for a second charge or some other kind of new threatening action including threat to get a weapon or hand reaching for a possible weapon carried (regardless of moving forward or backward).

At time I just wasn’t sure why McGlockton stopped moving back and stayed in kind of a ready position with front shoulder to shooter and if any threat or taunt issued by either in the couple of seconds before shot fired during which the video kind of shows possibility of situation deescalating. It’s not unheard of for people to initial back off & then attack especially if they start to doubt person will fire. From trial though it doesn’t appear to have been any evidence from witnesses at the scene that threats were still happening. I am not sure about taunts from either, but that wouldn’t justify shooting and was more wondering as taunts would more likely make it clearer shooting not in self defense.

I still believe it’s clear gun stopped Drejka from having more harm done to him on the ground by the approaching McGlockton, but whether it was patience or in panic in video his initial wait to fire should have made him realize by the time he actually fired that he only needed to fire if new threat of harm emerged. Since there was no evidence presented from any witness of any additional action or threats that could be taken as an immediate threat had occurred the verdict seems correct.

I know, I'm pretty hammered and know I'm not in the right. Initially a sideways troll going wrong.

my real legit options on the matter, sift through the alcohol and no troll whatsoever..

It's a sad situation all around. And what it ultimately means is, the victim will never have a chance to give his side. What he was thinking and how his mind processed what was occurring.

In my 20s I was easy to jump to anger, still can be if properly motivated and my family is proper motivation. I can try to see where he was coming from. Especially if I was just going to run in and out.

The shooter deserves jail. He is an idiot and has does not need to be in life or death judgement making decisions. He doesnt need to own a firearm again. And to be honest, probably deserves a greater charge.

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So it's ok for the moron to run out the store and attack?

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99% of the 'baws' posting on TD would have done the same if their family/someone they knew were being verbally harassed by some stranger.

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SEClint

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After reading your last several posts, I retract my initial one. Safe travels, man.

Why did the shooter decide it’s his job to enforce anything? He could have called the police who would if told him to let it go. Everyone would still have a life

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They look for confrontation and want someone to say something about their zero fricks attitude.

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You see this situation and think they were seeking confrontation by parking in a handicap spot? WTF you have some horrible takes

Not your asking for trouble, there are better ways to go about it. My uncle was in a wheel chair and when people parked and he couldn’t he’d call the police. Amazingly he never got in a fight nor shot someone.

I stopped reading when I got to Rev Al the race player