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re: Vader’s Model Desk: Republic P-47D Thunderbolt
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:52 pm to elprez00
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:52 pm to elprez00
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I finally got to see a Jug at the Museum of Flight in Seattle a few years ago. It’s huge, especially compared to a Mustang. Had to scare the hell out of the Luftwaffe seeing that big fighter screaming out of the sky.
For perspective….
P-47
BF-109
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 5:12 am to Darth_Vader
We have the best autists dont we folks?!
I dont know anything about model building but respect anyone who puts that amount of time and meticulous effort into something. Good shite.
I dont know anything about model building but respect anyone who puts that amount of time and meticulous effort into something. Good shite.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:26 am to Darth_Vader
Super Nice work !! We have a great uncle in the family lines who was shot down in Normandy in one in the first hours. He bellied it in on the beach and ended up near the cliffs pinned up against the cliffs as the Germans couldn't fire straight down at him. He spent the entire day there watching it unfold and later was thanked by the engineers for clearing the beach of mines so they could set troops on landing craft directly without having to sweep it first in the area he was in.
Been lucky to get to see a few of the remaining ones occasionally at my home base in Chino. "Dottie Mae" was there for quite a while last year. Always impressive and super cool to be told "Youre number 2 follow the thunderbolt on final".
Been lucky to get to see a few of the remaining ones occasionally at my home base in Chino. "Dottie Mae" was there for quite a while last year. Always impressive and super cool to be told "Youre number 2 follow the thunderbolt on final".
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:58 am to Darth_Vader
dude - that might be my Fav build you have done yet - that is a top 5 Fav plane for me. amazing work and details sir
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:54 am to Darth_Vader
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Mount Farm Airbase, England
Station 234...
another fine piece, Love it.... I am going to have to get back to posting my collection...
Posted on 3/9/25 at 11:02 am to Darth_Vader
My grandfather was a crew chief in the 510 fs / 405 fbg p-47s. He was standing ringside when Hans Rudel flew in to surrender.
ETA: Someone mentioned the staggered .50 cals earlier. Their fire converged at some point in front, which allowed them to take out locomotives and fortified emplacements on strafing runs. The 510 took at the bridge at Mantes-Gassicourt before June 6, did close air support. They took out an entire armored division at Avranches, France in late July 1944. First planes took at the lead and rear elements, then they spent the rest of the day slaughtering them with the .50s. A 3-mile long string of devastation.
ETA: Someone mentioned the staggered .50 cals earlier. Their fire converged at some point in front, which allowed them to take out locomotives and fortified emplacements on strafing runs. The 510 took at the bridge at Mantes-Gassicourt before June 6, did close air support. They took out an entire armored division at Avranches, France in late July 1944. First planes took at the lead and rear elements, then they spent the rest of the day slaughtering them with the .50s. A 3-mile long string of devastation.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 3/9/25 at 1:07 pm to HarryBalzack
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Someone mentioned the staggered .50 cals earlier. Their fire converged at some point in front, which allowed them to take out locomotives and fortified emplacements on strafing runs
Yes, fighter machine guns were actually sighted in. It was part of the normal maintenance in the aircraft. They called it “harmonisation”…
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In aerial gunnery, gun harmonisation, convergence pattern, convergence zone, convergence point or bore-sight point refers to the aiming of fixed guns or cannon carried in the wings of a fighter aircraft.
The wing guns in fighters were typically not bore-sighted to point straight ahead; instead they were aimed slightly inward so that the projectiles met at one or more areas several hundred yards or metres in front of the fighter's nose. The intent was either to spread the fire of multiple weapons to increase the chance of a hit, called "pattern harmonisation", or to concentrate the fire to deliver greater damage at one point, called "point harmonisation".
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Two convergence schemes for the American Republic P-47 Thunderbolt fighter as shown in a 1945 manual. The top scheme shows a diamond pattern which narrows to about 10 feet (3 m) wide at a range of 1,200 ft (370 m). The bottom scheme converges the eight guns into a point at about 1,100 ft (340 m).
LINK
Posted on 3/9/25 at 1:59 pm to Darth_Vader
As good of a wrestler as you were. you're even better at making models
Posted on 3/9/25 at 2:03 pm to Darth_Vader
Amazing!
Posted on 3/9/25 at 2:30 pm to Darth_Vader
NICE, the Thunderbolt doesn't get the attention it deserves. The Mustang gets more because it's sexier.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 2:38 pm to HeadSlash
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NICE, the Thunderbolt doesn't get the attention it deserves. The Mustang gets more because it's sexier.
True. And the P-51 had longer legs which allowed it to escort the heavies deeper into Germany. Where the P-47 really excelled was close air support.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 3:05 pm to Darth_Vader
Great work! Thanks for sharing!
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:39 pm to Darth_Vader
I met a long-retired P47 pilot years ago. He loved his plane and said he wouldn’t trade it for P51 under any circumstances.
I guess Mustang pilots would feel the same about their planes.
I guess Mustang pilots would feel the same about their planes.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:46 pm to Darth_Vader
Very nice natural metal finish. Clean. I know the decal scheme you speak of with the black and white checkerboards oh my God what a nightmare those decals were.
Currently working on one of your P-47s opponents, a FW 190A8 in the defense of the reich paint scheme as a bomber killer.. should be done next week.
Currently working on one of your P-47s opponents, a FW 190A8 in the defense of the reich paint scheme as a bomber killer.. should be done next week.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:57 pm to Darth_Vader
The F-6F Hellcat and F-4U Corsair were also quite large fighters.
Max TO weight was probably the largest difference...all powered by some version the P&W 2800
Per Wiki:
P-47D
Length: 36 ft 1+3/4 in (11.02 m)
Wingspan: 40 ft 9+5/16 in (12.43 m)
Height: 14 ft 8+1/16 in (4.472 m)
Wing area: 300 sq ft (28 m2) [65]
Airfoil: Seversky S-3[66]
Empty weight: 10,000 lb (4,536 kg)
Gross weight: 13,230 lb (6,001 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 17,500 lb (7,938 kg
F-6F
Length: 33 ft 7 in (10.24 m)
Wingspan: 42 ft 10 in (13.06 m)
Height: 13 ft 1 in (3.99 m)
Wing area: 334 sq ft (31.0 m2)
Aspect ratio: 5.5
Airfoil: root: NACA 23015.6; tip: NACA 23009[100]
Empty weight: 9,238 lb (4,190 kg)
Gross weight: 12,598 lb (5,714 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 15,415 lb (6,992 kg)
F-4U
Length: 33 ft 8 in (10.26 m)
Wingspan: 41 ft 0 in (12.50 m)
Height: 14 ft 9 in (4.50 m)
Wing area: 314 sq ft (29.17 m2)
Empty weight: 9,205 lb (4,238 kg)
Gross weight: 14,670 lb (6,654 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 14,533 lb (6,592 kg)
Max TO weight was probably the largest difference...all powered by some version the P&W 2800
Per Wiki:
P-47D
Length: 36 ft 1+3/4 in (11.02 m)
Wingspan: 40 ft 9+5/16 in (12.43 m)
Height: 14 ft 8+1/16 in (4.472 m)
Wing area: 300 sq ft (28 m2) [65]
Airfoil: Seversky S-3[66]
Empty weight: 10,000 lb (4,536 kg)
Gross weight: 13,230 lb (6,001 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 17,500 lb (7,938 kg
F-6F
Length: 33 ft 7 in (10.24 m)
Wingspan: 42 ft 10 in (13.06 m)
Height: 13 ft 1 in (3.99 m)
Wing area: 334 sq ft (31.0 m2)
Aspect ratio: 5.5
Airfoil: root: NACA 23015.6; tip: NACA 23009[100]
Empty weight: 9,238 lb (4,190 kg)
Gross weight: 12,598 lb (5,714 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 15,415 lb (6,992 kg)
F-4U
Length: 33 ft 8 in (10.26 m)
Wingspan: 41 ft 0 in (12.50 m)
Height: 14 ft 9 in (4.50 m)
Wing area: 314 sq ft (29.17 m2)
Empty weight: 9,205 lb (4,238 kg)
Gross weight: 14,670 lb (6,654 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 14,533 lb (6,592 kg)
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:02 pm to choppadocta
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Very nice natural metal finish. Clean. I know the decal scheme you speak of with the black and white checkerboards oh my God what a nightmare those decals were.
Yeah. When I was laying this build out and going over the instructions, as soon as I saw all that checkerboarding, I said frick that. Plhs, I love nose art and the other version has cool nose art. So it was a no brainer on which one I wanted to do.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:09 pm to TigersnJeeps
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F-4U Corsair
She was called the “Ensign Eliminator” due to how hard she was on inexperienced pilots. The engine produced so much torque, if you gave it too much power at takeoff, it would flip over and crash.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:59 pm to Darth_Vader
P-38 pilots had it easier, with all guns grouped in the nose.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:20 pm to FightinTigersDammit
P-38 pilots had it easier,
—except they had to keep up with 2 engines. Tricky plane to fly. But so cool looking.
—except they had to keep up with 2 engines. Tricky plane to fly. But so cool looking.
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:24 pm to cypresstiger
Most futuristic thing in the sky, until the ME 262.
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