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re: Vacation homes: Boomers may have finally out-boomered themselves in Palm Springs, CA

Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
53897 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:01 pm to
Man, you have to pay a $500 fee to apply for an Airbnb and then pay for inspections that OS has full right to fail you for to ensure your place meets standards. I said frick that and just long-term rented my spare room on Facebook and found a part-time roommate who works at Ingalls Monday-Thursday morning and is gone every Friday-Sunday...$900/month to do nothing. The regulations here are fricking stupid.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23448 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:02 pm to
But but but I thought the housing issue was the big investment firms and international money buying it all up?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16851 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:04 pm to
I’m really enjoying the whining from the airbnb kingdom bros I know. They finally figured out why I laughed at them for having 14 ARM mortgages.
Posted by natsoundup
Simpsonville, SC, Jupiter, FL,
Member since May 2013
367 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:06 pm to
Bought my condo in Jupiter ,Fl during the last crash. Very fortunate
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:09 pm to
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The regulations here are fricking stupid.


Turns out communities don’t like you turning their backyard into a business. Cry me a river, Schlomo.



Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179775 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:11 pm to
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They finally figured out why I laughed at them for having 14 ARM mortgages.




How many of them lied about what the mortgage was for?

I will look for it but there was a recent study saying mortgage fraud (lying about a property being a primary residence when really it was for a rental) is expected to cost banks billions if the market doesn't improve. They are exposed to thousands of them.

If shite hits the fan, I wonder if people will be prosecuted over it.

Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3125 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:11 pm to
So does Airbnb tank property values or does banning Airbnb tank property values? I’ve seen both argued here recently
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179775 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:12 pm to
Banning it all at once in an area increases inventory which will temporarily tank values but also it is harder to sell a house if it is next to a known AirBNB
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:14 pm to
If AirBnB’s are numerous and have been there a long time: tank

If they haven’t yet reached a large percentage: increase
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58913 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:14 pm to
Sometimes it’s best to just let Paul think he knows what he’s talking about for once
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
53897 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:17 pm to
Oh well. I will just keep increasing rent on my rentals in the meantime. I will beat the system. It is beneficial to have the hosuing shortage for my rentals in OS and Oxford.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:18 pm to
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How many of them lied about what the mortgage was for?


Stout perhaps you could explain because I’ve never quite understood: how do banks not know a buyer had numerous houses?

I mean, I know Airbnb properties are bought with LLCs, but would it not seem suspicious that a regular joe is buying a house with an LLC? I don’t think most people do this. Or are they just holding them ALL in their personal name, exposed to unlimited liability while somehow not getting found out? Seems like the latter wouldn’t get past a simple title search.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179775 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:32 pm to
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I know Airbnb properties are bought with LLC


Just because you buy it with an LLC doesn't mean you aren't the personal guarantor on the loan so it is likely on your personal credit. The only way I can think that they get away with it is either saying the additional purchase is a personal vacation house or they buy it using a LoC then refi later while also taking out a HELOC or something on their primary residence that was previously paid for. Outside of that, I honestly don't know how you could get more than a few mortgages without the bank knowing it was for rental use. They are trying to avoid an ARM which is the standard for investment purchase financing.


When I was building spec houses I had like 30 mortgages on my credit from the same bank I used. Even though they were all short term they still showed up. That was back in the early 2000s.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59227 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:36 pm to
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Sometimes it’s best to just let Paul think he knows what he’s talking about for once

he's trolling for the reaction

he uses a similar line about how WFH is "changing everything"
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7595 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

I’m really enjoying the whining from the airbnb kingdom bros I know


Thankfully I bought mine for dirt cheap and it’s paid for itself since we bought it. But it’s slowed considerably.
Posted by Seeing Grey
Member since Sep 2015
798 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Boomers may have finally out-boomered themselves


Guaranteed this wasn't boomers, it was orange county millennials pretending to be the next real estate mogul.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:05 am to
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Man, you have to pay a $500 fee to apply for an Airbnb and then pay for inspections that OS has full right to fail you for to ensure your place meets standards. I said frick that and just long-term rented my spare room on Facebook and found a part-time roommate who works at Ingalls Monday-Thursday morning and is gone every Friday-Sunday...$900/month to do nothing. The regulations here are fricking stupid.


Here I was thinking OS was one of the last hidden gems. Shame,I love the place. Hung out at Murky waters last night.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28077 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:46 am to
Rent them out to jarheads from 29 Stumps.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10540 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 3:12 am to
City where my ex wife lives voted to increase their own property taxes instead of a 5 cent gas tax and let all the tourists pay. People are morons.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71901 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 3:13 am to
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Can you link me to the one that's 87k?



Those are price cuts, boss.
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