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re: Utah surgeon, others accused of destroying vaccines, giving fake shots to children
Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:55 pm to ell_13
Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:55 pm to ell_13
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Scaring parents into injecting a pointless, unproven, and potentially dangerous serum into little kids is cool though?
Scaring them? A shite load of districts wouldn’t let them back into school without the vaccine card.
This was progressive authoritarianism cranked up to 9. That’s what I have a problem with.
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:55 pm to GumboPot
I was thinking this was going to be a story of a guy secretly giving out saline injections without the patient knowing, but it sounds like this guy was helping people who were being forced to take something they didn't want so I'm ok with it.
As far as "wasting" the vaccines, the government wasted millions of doses as well (not to mention the money they waste every sing day without consequence) so I don't care.
As far as "wasting" the vaccines, the government wasted millions of doses as well (not to mention the money they waste every sing day without consequence) so I don't care.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:58 pm to Damone
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Anti-vax idiots: Doctors are in the palm of Big Pharma and can't be trusted! My body my choice!
Also anti-vax idiots: Doctors should be able to lie and mislead about injections they're giving to kids!
I see you didn't read the article
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:00 pm to upgrayedd
I see the idea behind "well we just can't let doctors do this regardless of how you feel about COVID", I really do
But when medical institutions and government are openly lying to our faces and pushing us - with our money no less - to continue to get toddlers vaccinated, I just don't really care anymore.
But when medical institutions and government are openly lying to our faces and pushing us - with our money no less - to continue to get toddlers vaccinated, I just don't really care anymore.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:01 pm to lsupride87
You are really comparing a fully tested vaccine to one the government pushed thru with an emergency mandate? Lets not forget you could not sue the covid vaccine makes if you had an issue from the not fully tested vaccine.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:04 pm to GumboPot
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The documents say Moore and his neighbor, Kristin Jackson Andersen, 59, were members of a private organization seeking to “liberate the medical profession from government and industry conflicts of interest.”
fricking heroes
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:05 pm to GumboPot
Not guilty
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:06 pm to Damone
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Anti-vax idiots: Doctors are in the palm of Big Pharma and can't be trusted! My body my choice! Also anti-vax idiots: Doctors should be able to lie and mislead about injections they're giving to kids!
Pretty much every doctor either lied or misled people that gave the mRNA shots.
Every single one.
No one even had accurate data on covid, not a single doctor.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:09 pm to lsupride87
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If not, why don’t you play Robin Hood and go into peoples epic accounts and change their status to vaccinated to to help them out?
Because I like my job
ETA: it's way too easy to literally track anything that occurs in Epic via audit trail or even screen viewing things that happened in the past. I work directly with compliance on things like that
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:10 pm to Pettifogger
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I see the idea behind "well we just can't let doctors do this regardless of how you feel about COVID", I really do
But when medical institutions and government are openly lying to our faces and pushing us - with our money no less - to continue to get toddlers vaccinated, I just don't really care anymore.
This has nothing to do with "keeping the integrity" of the medical field. That went far out the window when these pharm companies, politicians, govt bureaucracies, media companies, corporations, and political pundits all teamed together to willfully mislead the global population and force them to get injected out of fear of losing their most basic freedoms.
These people were offering a way out for fully consensual parties that were being forced to do something they didn't want to do. The entire world was knowingly lied to yet these people say that these doctors are the ones ruining the integrity of the field? frick off.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:11 pm to commode
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You are really comparing a fully tested vaccine to one the government pushed thru with an emergency mandate? Lets not forget you could not sue the covid vaccine makes if you had an issue from the not fully tested vaccine.
And you couldn't see data on their vaccines for 70 years
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:13 pm to Deactived
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You said unvaccinated people shouldn't receive care at hospitals. Piss off with this we should have a choice now
Yes at the time I did say that and the reason I did was because hospitals were filling up and I just thought that if it came down to having to decide who gets treated and who doesn't get treated, the logical thing to do was to treat those who took the vaccine, first.
I do not think that way now because things have changed, more information is available, etc. You do realize its okay for people to have a different opinion than yours right?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:13 pm to lsupride87
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Yes, which is why the physicians should be charged
Doesn't your argument fall apart there? You asked how I would feel if some physician was creating fake measles documentation. I wouldn't care because I don't have a 100% belief that everyone that my child comes in contact with is vaccinated due to vaccine waivers that people can get if they really don't want to vaccinate their kids.
ETA: just because I don't care doesn't mean that the physician didn't break the law, I just don't care that he/she did
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I don’t agree with COVID mandates. That said, what happens when someone like the Doc in OP is a legitimate anti-vaxxer and wants to do this with an MMR because they believe it causes autism?
So when doctors blindly listen to their admin and pharma, we end up with 100k overdoses.
These people spent hundreds of millions on aggressive opioid advertising campaigns in the late 90s and early 2000s to where we now have a fricking opioid problem in this country.
And let’s not forget the entire, animal fats are bad for you. So now heart disease is still the #1 killer and diabetes is an epidemic.
Good job doctors. Doing what you were told.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:15 pm to Epic Cajun
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Did you read the article? The only "fake" vaccines that were given out were given to children, when the parents requested it. This doctor wasn't going rogue and just giving any and everyone a "fake" vaccine. They provided fake cards to some people, and provided "fake" vaccines to the kids of parents who didn't want their kids to get the real one.
ETA: they are not accused of given random adults a fake vaccine when they wanted a real one.
I read all that.
If you don't approve of school mandates, you're well within your right to contact your legislator (as states have the right to create their own mandates when it comes to vaccines) and even vote them out if they're not addressing it.
But yes, there is a host of issues with a doctor (who swore an oath) who is administering fake vaccines even at the will of the parents.
As I said, what happens if this is not a COVID vaccine and is instead an MMR? Then you end up with a measles outbreak. It makes it almost impossible to contact trace (I realize this is a dirty word because of COVID but it's valid when it comes to other diseases) AND puts children who medically cannot be vaccinated in direct harm. We're not that far removed from Andrew Wakefield's non-sense that had thousands of families seeking vaccination waivers based on really bad science that was debunked.
Then there's the question of how they handled the saline. Did they do so without contamination? Can we actually trust that?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:16 pm to OweO
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Yes at the time I did say that and the reason I did was because hospitals were filling up and I just thought that if it came down to having to decide who gets treated and who doesn't get treated, the logical thing to do was to treat those who took the vaccine, first.
Why? They have the vaccine.
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I do not think that way now because things have changed, more information is available, etc. You do realize its okay for people to have a different opinion than yours right?
Hilarious how all the hardliners are now acting like they were just doing the right thing in the moment. frick you.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:17 pm to BluegrassBelle
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As I said, what happens if this is not a COVID vaccine and is instead an MMR?
As I said, opioids.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:17 pm to dgnx6
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So when doctors blindly listen to their admin and pharma, we end up with 100k overdoses.
These people spent hundreds of millions on aggressive opioid advertising campaigns in the late 90s and early 2000s to where we now have a fricking opioid problem in this country.
And let’s not forget the entire, animal fats are bad for you. So now heart disease is still the #1 killer and diabetes is an epidemic.
Good job doctors. Doing what you were told.
So you don't trust any doctor ever because of that?
That's a whole lot of whataboutism to justify not punishing doctors who are negligent.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
I find your stance pretty rational
But slippery slope arguments when we went over the cliff 2 years ago just aren't that effective anymore
But slippery slope arguments when we went over the cliff 2 years ago just aren't that effective anymore
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:20 pm to BluegrassBelle
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So you don't trust any doctor ever because of that? That's a whole lot of whataboutism to justify not punishing doctors who are negligent.
I’m telling you not a single doctor had accurate information on covid or these vaccines.
Just like what happened with things like oxy.
Or with vioxx.
The doctors didn’t know and killed people. And some probably had questions, but would rather keep their license than do what’s right.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 3:21 pm
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