- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:43 pm to coonass27
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:43 pm to coonass27
quote:
WhAt are you talking about??? The BP explosion was due to shite overflowing out the top of the blowdown stack because they were putting crap in vessels that were full. The relief valves had been bypassed and the alarm that was set to go off when the level got to a certain level had been going off for months due to it being faulty. When it went off a 3rd and fourth time, it was ignored again until shite started flowing out the top and a running truck served as the ignition source. Maybe it can be blamed on salary employees but it wasn't becuSe they worked too long
Cool, good to know that fatigue wasn't mentioned anywhere in the findings of CSB.
Again, at plenty of sites hourly employees are not responsible for silencing alarms. That is left up to supervision.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 3:45 pm
1
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:45 pm to fightin tigers
They didn't take a day off in months?
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:49 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
Thank God for this. Unions nearly killed Detroit. Glad they don't weild that power here
frick that noise. Unions didn't kill Detroit! It was the bone headed management thugs who kept trying to make politcal points to the detriment of the company and the industry in the US.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:50 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I would have to go back and see the exact days, but it seems they were coming off a turnaround and had worked over 30 days. It has been at least a year since I reviewed it.
The main contributors were poor unit startup procedures, ignoring and having non functioning alarms. Material balance should have been caught, but that was attributed to inexperience and fatigue.
The main contributors were poor unit startup procedures, ignoring and having non functioning alarms. Material balance should have been caught, but that was attributed to inexperience and fatigue.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:54 pm to Flame Salamander
So the people making $55 an hour to put 4 screws into a seat frame don't hurt the financials of their employers? Gotcha
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:54 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:56 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
So the people making $55 am hour to put 4 screws into a seat frame don't hirt the financials of their employers? Gotcha
So the CEO and VP's making 1.5 million up to 37 million to play polical games with the company don't hurt the financials...got your stupid fricking arse.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 3:59 pm to Flame Salamander
Didn't ford's CEO drop his salary to $1 when things got tough?
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:00 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
So the people making $55 an hour to put 4 screws into a seat frame don't hurt the financials of their employers? Gotcha
You could always go to P-Tech school, you seem very hung up on financials.
Listen to Dave Ramsey in the meantime he will help with your money issues.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:01 pm to Saints72
I was a CFO of an oilfield service company. I know numbers
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:09 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
CEOs make big bucks. Managers make big bucks. Supervisors some do some don't. Some workers do and others don't.
How many times has a "union employee " now complaining about safety ever snuck into a non smoking area to get a drag, or didn't have their earplugs in, or their safety glasses on, or hard hat on.
Here is a novel idea companies agree to the new safety standards and whenever someone is caught not following PPE procedures then send their asses to the unemployment line zero tolerance.
And don't give me that shite about no one would do that I've worked in union plants and seen it. A man was on a forklift with it running snoring his arse off and the union got his write up overtuRned because he was just resting his eyes. He could have killed someone.
How many times has a "union employee " now complaining about safety ever snuck into a non smoking area to get a drag, or didn't have their earplugs in, or their safety glasses on, or hard hat on.
Here is a novel idea companies agree to the new safety standards and whenever someone is caught not following PPE procedures then send their asses to the unemployment line zero tolerance.
And don't give me that shite about no one would do that I've worked in union plants and seen it. A man was on a forklift with it running snoring his arse off and the union got his write up overtuRned because he was just resting his eyes. He could have killed someone.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:16 pm to bulldog95
quote:
And don't give me that shite about no one would do that I've worked in union plants and seen it. A man was on a forklift with it running snoring his arse off and the union got his write up overtuRned because he was just resting his eyes. He could have killed someone.
I've seen it too. A girl in the warehouse, who somehow was union, pulled stupid shite for years and years. The manager tried several times to get rid of her, but was overuled. She had had a safety incident also.
Then she ran the forklift into a rack and damaged it. Manager was finally able to fire her lazy arse. Somehow two days later someone overruled him and she showed back up laughing at having her job back.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:17 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
Didn't ford's CEO drop his salary to $1 when things got tough?
He did. Allan Mulally.
What he did for that company is awe-inspiring. Only people that actually understand American business will have a clue how he saved that company.
Balls.
He has them.
And so did Ford's board for going along with his plans.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:24 pm to N2cars
That can't be true, that previous poster got my stupid fricking arse.
CEO's only play games and are more replaceable than the janitors at their plants
This is the part where I say companies in non- Union states didn't suffer 1/10th the financial struggles of Detroit's automakers and will be called dumb
CEO's only play games and are more replaceable than the janitors at their plants
This is the part where I say companies in non- Union states didn't suffer 1/10th the financial struggles of Detroit's automakers and will be called dumb
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:29 pm to N2cars
This is reaching brah. It is what it is and people are using safety issues to justify the strike rather than use the real reasons. I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm willing to bet anything that this strike is due to ridiculous wage demands and benefits . Not over an extra 20-30 min breaks per 12 hr shifts. The 7 day rule isn't followed, the workers cry they are tired. , the 7 day rule is followed the workers cry big bad management is screwing them out of DT. You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:33 pm to coonass27
What?
Posted on 2/21/15 at 4:43 pm to coonass27
quote:
I'm willing to bet anything that this strike is due to ridiculous wage demands and benefits
I wouldn't bet too much.
quote:
The 7 day rule isn't followed, the workers cry they are tired. , the 7 day rule is followed the workers cry big bad management is screwing them out of DT. You can't have it both ways.
The main point of getting a nationwide fatigue policy in place is to make it clear and make the employer/employee accountable. Right now it isn't a blanket policy, but instead enforced as needed at some sites. It cuts down on an issue that is croppinh up and causing problems for both sides.
The final issue, which is probably what is holding this up. Is contracting out. The union has given away jobs for decades and is now trying to get that to stop. Unfortunately, they have to change precedent.
The company doesn't want hourly employees, they have been shedding them for years and will likely continue to replace those positions with contractors through attrition. The union is obviously fighting to stay relevant with workers in jobs they once held and most workers would rather see a union brother or employee over a contractor that gets the boot and is replaced every few months.
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:02 pm to fightin tigers
Doesn't louisiana have a rule where you can't work someone more than 16 hrs without them clocking out and taking 8 hrs off. And I know at the plant I worked at if you (hourly) worked over 6 days in a week during the busy time and 5 days when it was slow it was because you signed up for it on the overtime work sheets. No noe was required to work over 5 days straight unless they wanted to.
I know I worked for 152 straight days one time without a day off but hey I was a supervisor so it was okay for me but god forbid the union worker who might have to work a little.
And yes I knew how to run all the equipment in the entire plant and mostly better than the actual operators.
I know I worked for 152 straight days one time without a day off but hey I was a supervisor so it was okay for me but god forbid the union worker who might have to work a little.
And yes I knew how to run all the equipment in the entire plant and mostly better than the actual operators.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:29 pm to bulldog95
quote:
Doesn't louisiana have a rule where you can't work someone more than 16 hrs without them clocking out and taking 8 hrs off
If so it is disregarded pretty often. I believe hourly is held to it though. Have worked an 18, but had to have a full day off afterwards.
From your description your site is a good bit different from the places I am familiar with. Not sure if it is just a size issue or complexity.
Working 21-30 days is not that uncommon still (regular not TA work). You are scheduled or "drafted" before heading home or can be on call and have to report back. It can keep up near indefinitely by the program I am under now.
quote:
know I worked for 152 straight days one time without a day off but hey I was a supervisor so it was okay for me but god forbid the union worker who might have to work a little.
This is kind of the point. No one should be in a position to make life/death decisions when they are in a fatigued state. Supervision are the ones signing off on MOC's or making slate changes, it all presents risks.
This post was edited on 2/21/15 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 2/21/15 at 5:34 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
After years of making stupid political decisions based upon his collusion with other big 3 CEO's he drops his pay as a publicity stunt. Is he still making $1? frick no. Mullally took home 21 million on 2012.
Page 60 of 112
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News