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re: Using another job offer as leverage to get a raise?
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:20 pm to BabyTac
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:20 pm to BabyTac
I recently was in a similar predicament, except I was going to take the other job. I'm glad I didn't because I wanted to stay with my current employer and they came close enough with their counter for me to stay.
If you are not going I wouldn't bring it up (personal opinion). If you leaving is a real possibility, absolutely bring it up and ask for a match.
If you are not going I wouldn't bring it up (personal opinion). If you leaving is a real possibility, absolutely bring it up and ask for a match.
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:20 pm to BabyTac
That could definitely happen. The other possibility is they could tell you to leave on the spot. I have done this twice, first time we didn't value the person, second time we were slow and could afford to not have anyone in that spot. But, the biggest risk is they match your offer and you stay on, then 6 months down the road they replace you because they view you as a risk to leave.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:21 pm to BabyTac
I have never done it myself, but I have seen others do it. Just understand that if you go in there to leverage another job, you better be willing to take it because your current company can call your bluff and tell you to take a hike.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:21 pm to BabyTac
Money Talk board would be a better topic for this.
And no, I've never done that. I wouldn't trust my company to not be vindictive pricks about it even if they matched the offer.
And no, I've never done that. I wouldn't trust my company to not be vindictive pricks about it even if they matched the offer.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:21 pm to BabyTac
I mean you could, but don't expect favorable treatment next time there is a round of layoffs.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:23 pm to BabyTac
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Using another job offer as leverage to get a raise?
Isn't this pretty much standard practice? I've done it a few times. Never had my bluff called, but I wasn't bluffing. I've also upped an offer to someone I was recruiting just to force my competition to pay more to keep them.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:23 pm to BabyTac
be sure to say youd love to stay where you are if the offer can be matched.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:24 pm to BabyTac
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Because of a few things going on there that I've found out about since interviewing
Of course you know...
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:32 pm to SEClint
I've never understood why employees/ employers pussifoot around salaries/ pay so much.
I've always been one to help promote my employees especially if they deserved it. If one of my employees came to me with a better offer I'd gladly see what I could do, and if I couldn't match it I'd happily tell them they should take the better offer.
I've always been one to help promote my employees especially if they deserved it. If one of my employees came to me with a better offer I'd gladly see what I could do, and if I couldn't match it I'd happily tell them they should take the better offer.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:46 pm to BabyTac
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I've never been the type of employee with big enough balls to back my employer in a corner per se or request they match 'or else'. FWIW, I've always worked for pretty conservative type corporations and have always felt like I was paid market value.
If you are going to do this, you have to be prepared to leave. Do not bluff. If you don't want to take this new job, then wait until you have a job lined up that you want to take. IF they counter offer, they won't do it until they know for a fact you are leaving.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:52 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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u could just write a proposal stating all your experience and qualifications on why you deserve a raise to X number.
Don't ever put that shite down in writing...never.
You can discuss it all you want just don't make them make a move because you have it on record.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 2:55 pm to BabyTac
Maybe you'll finally get that Sebring
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:04 pm to BabyTac
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have always felt like I was paid market value.
Some asshat that does less/knows less than you, is making more than you..moreover that person/persons probably know as well.
Grow a pair and ask for more $.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:05 pm to BabyTac
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I recently interviewed and received an offer from another company
Did you pursue the other company, or did they seek you out. If you're out there looking, then you need to think about why you are looking. Do you like the company that you're working for, or are you ready to move on to something else?
If you really like the company that you work for and plan to stay there long term, then I would either take the easy way out and use the job offer as leverage, or, as others suggested, prepare yourself with facts to go in and ask for a raise.
If you don't like the company that you work for, then suck it up until you find the right job for you. Don't use this job as leverage for a raise as a company you're still going to be unhappy at, then start looking for another job again in a few weeks. Your current company will probably give a bad reference.
If you like the company, but don't like your current position, email or talk to someone a couple levels up from you. Let them know that you're interested in moving up in the company and don't mind switching departments for higher up position that you are qualified for. Make sure it's someone that is familiar with you, and knows about positions as they open up.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:06 pm to tke857
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mean you risk the chance of your current employer saying fine "take a walk" and if you dont leave w/o getting raise they know your looking for a new job anyways and if there are any cuts to be made youre prob first on the chopping block.
This is why you dont attempt this without an offer letter in hand.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:13 pm to BabyTac
There is a very good chance that your boss has done the same thing at one point in his career. Everyone has to do what's best for their own career and family.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:18 pm to BabyTac
I've done it 3 times in 25 years, but not in the last 10. I didn't get the offer matched, but it was always enough to keep me from leaving. I never said "do this or else". That's playing with fire.
My situation with the CEO was good though, he hired me, trained me, and knew he was under paying me.
My situation with the CEO was good though, he hired me, trained me, and knew he was under paying me.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:22 pm to More beer please
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Coworker did this. Got the raise, then peaced out a few months later.
this you interviewed for a reason
what came to light?
If it is something you can leave and are prepare to walk then you just go tell your current hey I want to stay, but I got to feed them kids baw
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:25 pm to BabyTac
I would say this, if you would rather stay at your current job it probably isn't worth doing it. If they tell you to go frick yourself then you are screwed. in this situation it doesn't sound like you have the leverage.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:25 pm to thelawnwranglers
depends on your employer too - if they are the jealous type this is the equivalent of going home to your wife and telling her you just the tip some random broad but pulled out because you want to fix things at home
If the are big corporation who aren't insecure they might just say hey we want to keep you.
Hell offer them a hometown discount if you really like them. That way you show that you value spot.
If the are big corporation who aren't insecure they might just say hey we want to keep you.
Hell offer them a hometown discount if you really like them. That way you show that you value spot.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 3:28 pm
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