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re: US will soon break record for measles cases in a year

Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:40 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:40 pm to
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The anti-vaccine movement has been spreading disinformation about vaccines among vulnerable populations
Cue yogagirl in 3,2,1...
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48560 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:42 pm to
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During the 1950s and 1960s it was likely in the millions, there were over 500,000 cases reported annually until around 1964, but the majority of cases were never reported


That is a valid argument. But if your parents simply told your family doctor you had had the measles, he would likely have reported it. Anti Vaxxers are primarily too young to have seen any of that stuff. The irony is the anti vax movement is a product of a highly successful vaccination campaign in the previous generation(s).
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:42 pm to
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Are you unaware that both Brooklyn and Queens have very large Hispanic communities?


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and cases primarily centered among Orthodox Jews living in certain neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Queens


Are you capable of reading? It didn't say "most cases are in Brooklyn and queens, where orthodox Jews are found." It specifically stated the cases were orthodox Jews and that their specific location was Brooklyn/queens.

Oh yeah, "it's fake news and a conspiracy!"
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:46 pm to
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This outbreak has very little to do with American parents not vaccinating their children and almost everything to do with undocumented immigration.




I made that gif just for you, ManBear
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 6:48 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:48 pm to
I'll ask again, how was the virus reintroduced to this community you are trying to scapegoat? If you knew anything about herd immunity, or even just had the ability to utilize basic logic and reasoning, you would be asking yourself this question.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:51 pm to
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I'll ask again, how was the virus reintroduced to this community you are trying to scapegoat? If you knew anything about herd immunity, or even just had the ability to utilize basic logic and reasoning, you would be asking yourself this question.


Clearly it's the illegal immigrants, not the retarded millennial middle class SAHMs who think vaccination leads to autism.

It's illegals, and God dammit build the wall.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:52 pm to
Anti-vaxxers comprise that weird space where the extra-retarded on both the left and right converge.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71179 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:55 pm to
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This outbreak has very little to do with American parents not vaccinating their children and almost everything to do with undocumented immigration.




Listen, illegal immigration does contribute to the issue but the main issue is people are dumb and refusing to vaccinate their children. Their is a rise in the amount of "anti vaxxers" because of the "fear of autism" and other bogus syndromes associated with it.

I am reading stories of a lot of major towns in places like Minnesota and Oregon where the epidemic is blowing up because they people are idiots and refusing to take care of their children.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:57 pm to
Right - the highest rates of measles increases have been in wealthier white suburbs. It’s mostly Facebook mom BS causing this.
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:57 pm to
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yogagirl


"I have some essential oils for sale"
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:58 pm to
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Clearly it's the illegal immigrants, not the retarded millennial middle class SAHMs who think vaccination leads to autism.

So... where is it coming from? Do you think measles just pops up in someone if they are not vaccinated? Seriously, study up on some basic biology lad.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Seriously, study up on some basic biology lad.


Basic biology = measles comes from illegals.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:01 pm to
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Listen, illegal immigration does contribute to the issue but the main issue is people are dumb and refusing to vaccinate their children. Their is a rise in the amount of "anti vaxxers" because of the "fear of autism" and other bogus syndromes associated with it.


These people's kids would not be exposed to the virus in the first place, eliminating the necessity for a vaccine, if the virus wasn't being reintroduced from outside the herd.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:02 pm to
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Right - the highest rates of measles increases have been in wealthier white suburbs. It’s mostly Facebook mom BS causing this.


Now just do the highest incidence of measles.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 7:03 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:03 pm to
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These people's kids would not be exposed to the virus in the first place, eliminating the necessity for a vaccine, if the virus wasn't being reintroduced from outside the herd.


This is what manbeartiger calls sound logic and biology.

You seriously can't see the circular logic here?

You don't just stop vaccinating.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:05 pm to
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You don't just stop vaccinating.




Should we be vaccinating for the bubonic plague?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71179 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:06 pm to
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These people's kids would not be exposed to the virus in the first place, eliminating the necessity for a vaccine, if the virus wasn't being reintroduced from outside the herd.



I don't agree with this. People from the US travel abroad all the time and bring back all kinds of junk to the US.

Illegal immigration does contribute to it but is not necessarily the main reason why we currently are having these big outbreaks of measles.

That is a dumb reason to stop vaccinating. It only takes one case, then boom its everywhere in a hurry.
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 7:08 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:10 pm to
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don't agree with this. People from the US travel abroad all the time and bring back all kinds of junk to the US.


Don't we have requirements that people coming in are up to date on their shots?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:10 pm to
Hopefully that's a troll and I didn't really have to specify the obvious that measles hasn't been eradicated.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:14 pm to
Yersinia pestis hasn't been entirety eradicated and is still found in certain corners of the globe. If a massive influx of individuals hailing from those corners was introduced to the West we would see a large uptick in incidence. Are you starting to follow?
This post was edited on 4/22/19 at 7:16 pm
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