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Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:21 am to Napoleon
Wonder if they play The Oregon Trail on those computers?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:24 am to DoUrden
Yeah you right!
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:26 am to Napoleon
but they have transgender bathrooms.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:27 am to fillmoregandt
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If that were true, then why haven't they upgraded then? You're post is contradictally incorrect
I generally meant shiny new programs. No congressman gets elected on the platform of maintaining old shite.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:42 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Wouldn't using this out of date technology make it less likely to be hacked?
It's entirely possible to set up a network that has no internet connection FWIW. I use one myself every day.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:45 am to SG_Geaux
quote:why?
That is scary as hell.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:48 am to Napoleon
I'm sure it has been mentioned, but this old tech is virtually unhackable. No need updating to new tech and running risks of our single best/most dangerous military asset getting hacked
Posted on 5/26/16 at 11:59 am to foshizzle
There's a couple reasons why they are reluctant to change.
1. It costs shite tons of money to update this tech. I don't have a number, but I have an example. At a nuke plant there was a switch that with the way it was designed caused a few mispositions. Really big deal to misposition something at a nuke. To fix it the operators insisted on replacing it with a new switch that would get rid of the confusion. The price to replace said switch was gonna cost around a million dollars. No shite 1 million dollars. The engineering, paperwork and tests that had to be done to prove that the new switch would function exactly like the original switch was extensive. So, said operators took a sharpie colored in a part of the switch to remove the confusion. The fix was extremely simple. So, my point is phasing out old tech that is proven is really really expensive and why phase something out that works?
2. The second reason ties into the first. Why fix it if it runs smoothly? Nuke industry is so heavily regulated, and as a result everyone is extremely cautious to making any drastic changes. These old computer systems are severely outdated but I've never really heard of instances where they get hacked. Upgrade to wireless systems or more advanced tech and I guarantee billions will be spent defending these systems from being hacked.
For those whining about how it's scary how our nuke program is run off old tech...you really don't know shite
1. It costs shite tons of money to update this tech. I don't have a number, but I have an example. At a nuke plant there was a switch that with the way it was designed caused a few mispositions. Really big deal to misposition something at a nuke. To fix it the operators insisted on replacing it with a new switch that would get rid of the confusion. The price to replace said switch was gonna cost around a million dollars. No shite 1 million dollars. The engineering, paperwork and tests that had to be done to prove that the new switch would function exactly like the original switch was extensive. So, said operators took a sharpie colored in a part of the switch to remove the confusion. The fix was extremely simple. So, my point is phasing out old tech that is proven is really really expensive and why phase something out that works?
2. The second reason ties into the first. Why fix it if it runs smoothly? Nuke industry is so heavily regulated, and as a result everyone is extremely cautious to making any drastic changes. These old computer systems are severely outdated but I've never really heard of instances where they get hacked. Upgrade to wireless systems or more advanced tech and I guarantee billions will be spent defending these systems from being hacked.
For those whining about how it's scary how our nuke program is run off old tech...you really don't know shite
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:05 pm to sugatowng
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The GAO report says that U.S. government departments spend upwards of $60 billion a year on operating and maintaining out-of-date technologies
The Federal Judiciary still used Lotus Notes for their email system. Nothing is up to date anymore. It wasn't always like that but, since Obama came into office and the budgets got cut, everything just stopped in terms of systems upgrades. They spend all of their attention on more important things like diversity programs and such. IT staff have been reduced and they have been tasked with functions that they should not be doing. It's a disaster right now.
I saw it first hand in recent years.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:19 pm to Athletix
Yep, and besides being unhackable, there are multiple physical keys on opposite sides of the room that have to be turned simultaneously,
so even if an infiltrator did get it with proper operating instructions, he physically wouldn't be able to perform the key task.
so even if an infiltrator did get it with proper operating instructions, he physically wouldn't be able to perform the key task.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:21 pm to Napoleon
I mean, sounds hard to hack 
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:21 pm to AjaxFury
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even if an infiltrator did get it with proper operating instructions, he physically wouldn't be able to perform the key task.
Because he clearly wouldn't have an accomplice
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:28 pm to fillmoregandt
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This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:31 pm to CAD703X
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Because he clearly wouldn't have an accomplice
The point is , Smalls, that it's infinitely easier for a single double agent to infiltrate that kind of security level over multiple ones.
I know it's hard to think outside the box with your tiny brain, but give it a try sometime.
Tell me, how is an accomplice getting past several layers of military security on patrol 24-7
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:35 pm to Darth_Vader
Not the point. From the point of view of the average American, nuclear bombs aren't a new thing. Plus they have pretty mu h been rendered useless in today's world. Therefore Congress isn't going to make any litigation to change protocol because in the end people don't give a shite
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:36 pm to Napoleon
Vacuum Tube technology is resistant to EMP attack. If we could run our military computers on vacuum tube technology and continue to use the big floppy disks, we'd be very resistant to EMP attack.
Then the guys on watch in the missile silos could hook up a player and watch movies on old Laser Disks.
Then the guys on watch in the missile silos could hook up a player and watch movies on old Laser Disks.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:37 pm to AjaxFury
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Tell me, how is an accomplice getting past several layers of military security on patrol 24-7
ok captain IQ, how about he puts a bullet in the leg of a captive and threatens a gut shot if he doenst turn the other key.
you're a terrible criminal.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:37 pm to Napoleon
It is incredibly hard to hack that type of stuff, and it is still working so why switch?
Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:38 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
We come across the same issues in dealing with infrastructure. The US has a D+ grade and is severely lacking inspectors; but until it fricks us, no one cares
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 12:40 pm
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