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re: US District Court in NOLA has stayed a bunch of civil cases where fraud has been alleged.

Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15546 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:58 am to
And I see you got your talking points from the news. How is a $5000 jury trial threshold common sense? You realize that could plausibly involve nearly every accident that occurs?
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:58 am to
quote:

remove direct action against an insurer.


Why?


Bringing an insurance company into a lawsuit encourages a jury’s tendency to award larger damages. It’s human nature to see a company in a different light than a real person, so when they feel sorry for the plaintiff, they don't see the judgement as hurting another person. But in the end, it drives up insurance rates.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:58 am to
Here’s the original thread that YOU started last year.

What’s your beef

LINK /
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:00 am to
quote:

No they wont


Thank you for your reasoned response. It changed my mind.
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:02 am to
quote:

How is a $5000 jury trial threshold common sense? You realize that could plausibly involve nearly every accident that occurs?



Yes. And it introduces risk to the plaintiff's attorney, who gets paid on contingency. This reduces judge shopping and combined with the other changes, cuts down on frivolous lawsuits in the first place.

Think about it: There is a probably a reason most other states have gone this direction.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19700 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:03 am to
Give me a 2 year prescriptive period. Would help stop some lawsuits from having to be filed.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28259 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:04 am to
First heard about that several months ago but zero developments. Do you have the case number for one of them?
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Our tort laws are ridiculous.



How so?
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11199 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:05 am to
quote:

t’s human nature to see a company in a different light than a real person,


Ummm..it;'s a company paying isn't it?

Posted by Woolfman_8
Old Metairie
Member since Oct 2018
2072 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:06 am to
isnt this the whole KING law thing?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98657 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:10 am to
1) lower Louisiana's jury trial threshold from $50,000 to $5,000 to bring us more in line with other states. - $5k is too low. System would be overwhelmed. Reduce it to $20,001.00 and adjust the jurisdiction caps for all city and parish courts to $20,000.00 (get rid of all the fricking carve outs - including Pinevile City Court)

2) end the collateral source rule - agreed

3) remove direct action against an insurer - agreed

I would add "loser pays" the attorney's fees of the other side - no discretion - and it applies to the lawyers as well as the client (in case the broke dick plaintiff can't pay up).

This would result in:

a) a hell of a lot more settlements before suit is filed
b) quick settlements after initial discovery
c) only cases with "merit" will go to trial

Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2643 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:11 am to
We caught a staged accident on video. They use a spotter and when the mark approaches, the "victim" waits for the signal to pull out in front of the mark.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112589 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:12 am to
Loser pays is meaningless. Gordon and Morris Bart aren’t taking cases where liability is in question.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14722 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:12 am to
Where was did you catch this?

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115678 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:12 am to
quote:

ETA: You must be an attorney because I can't imagine anyone else being against these common sense changes.



Of course you can't because you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

There is enough statistical data to determine that almost none of that would have any effect on insurance rates, and #1 would be DISASTROUS for our court system in ways your feeble brain can't comprehend.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112589 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:13 am to
I’ve yet to see a good argument for why collateral source being done away with. Why should the tortfeasor get off lighter because the plaintiff had insurance?
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:14 am
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:14 am to
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Ummm..it;'s a company paying isn't it?


Yes, and then they raise our premiums to make up for it.
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:15 am to
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$5k is too low. System would be overwhelmed. Reduce it to $20,001.00 and adjust the jurisdiction caps for all city and parish courts to $20,000.00 (get rid of all the fricking carve outs - including Pinevile City Court)


I could go for that.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101342 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:17 am to
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I’ve yet to see a good argument for why collateral source being done away with. Why should the tortfeasor get off lighter because the plaintiff had insurance?




Should at least get the insurance write off. Why should a plaintiff get the windfall for that?
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:19 am to
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I’ve yet to see a good argument for why collateral source being done away with. Why should the tortfeasor get off lighter because the plaintiff had insurance


You don't think the tortfeasor should have to pay only actual damages? The medical industry jacks up "sticker prices" through the roof because most insurance providers pay a percentage discount. Even private payors don't pay sticker price, unless they don't know any better. But, "collatoral source" requires the tort damages be based off these prices, which aren't tethered to reality.
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