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re: U.S. birth rate falls for 4th year in a row

Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2874 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:39 am to
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If finances are to blame, why is it that poor Americans households have higher birth rates?

When you’re on welfare more babies= more money

When you support yourself and the welfare families, more babies= financial burden, especially when the public’s schools are crap
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The women not having kids are NOT indebted, going-nowhere young women They are professional class yuppie women, urban dwelling

Signed, guy with pregnant indebted working wife who lives in urban area.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20259 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:42 am to
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26, single, 6 figure salary

Nice. What you do for a living?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37583 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 11:55 am to
I honesty think that more people living in bigger cities compared to small towns, rural living has resulted in an exponential rise in cost of child rearing.

I have no data to prove this, but it’s a thought I just had pop into my mind
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13965 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:04 pm to
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It's almost as if they want to breed two distinct races of people - towering, shining overlords and dirty little serfs.


I think this country is already on that level, but none of us serfs has realized it. Just keep the serfs content with the "new" iPhone 26.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37583 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:07 pm to
What does that graph say?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24189 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:10 pm to
DINK here...if we never have kids, then life would be a breeze. We’ll have kids in the next few years though.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37583 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:42 pm to
How old are you?
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:13 pm to
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The bad news: We're not having enough babies to replenish the population.



Serious question. How is that a bad thing?

Maybe if it's a 20yr trend, but this seems to be a recent product of women waiting later to have children. That could mean a few years of a boom in the near future.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37583 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:16 pm to
For one, social security will collapse without exponential population growth paying into it.
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 2:03 pm to
I guarantee the birth rate for certain subsets of the population have risen and will continue to rise.

As a childless, selfish, evil, good for nothing millennial:

1) Children are expensive to raise correctly (i.e. decent standard of living, good education, stable social/financial support system). The financial issues facing my generation have been well documented.

2) I'm afraid of screwing it up. The world doesn't need more shitty people. You're not raising a child, you're raising an adult. Damn near anyone can biologically reproduce, but how many of them can mold a child into a valuable, useful, productive citizen?

3) I delayed a ton of gratification by getting a terminal degree, staying out of trouble, and living frugally. It sucked watching all my friends live it up while I studied and worked my arse off. I have yet to realize/enjoy the fruits of my labor and I think it would be irresponsible to have a child when I myself cannot say with 100% certainty that I would be able to place their needs and desires before my own.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11196 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 2:07 pm to
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I think this country is already on that level


Maybe we shouldn't print money to fund these massive public programs, then. You can't have it both ways. I'm sure you understand that.
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1673 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 3:25 pm to
Social Security is now a tax. The moment the people discover that it has failed is the same moment that Congress will convert it over into a formal tax.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3189 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 3:28 pm to
The worst news of all is that leftist pyramid schemes fail faster without population growth to fund them
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 3:29 pm to
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If finances are to blame, why is it that poor Americans households have higher birth rates?
In poor households, babies are assets.

In rich households, babies are liabilities.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47823 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 3:30 pm to
Let’s not talk about the elephants in the room... birth control and tinder
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51715 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:54 pm to
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and tinder


Almost singlehandedly raising STD rates in this country.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55851 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 8:56 pm to
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Let’s not talk about the elephants in the room... birth control and tinder

how does tinder lower the birthrate?
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:03 pm to
Recently attended an Occupational Safety conference and the Keynote Speaker ( https://www.gordongraham.com/about.html, Risk Management SME) started his speech with this:

"Can anyone tell me what the greatest RISK America faces today?"

After multiple guesses from the audience... he stated "LOW BIRTHRATE".

He then when into a 10-minutes slideshow presentation that contained many of the points made in this thread.
This post was edited on 11/27/19 at 9:05 pm
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1673 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:04 pm to
It inhibits pair bonding and therefore stunts marriage and family development.

This whole topic is odd since I do not want to see the govt get their hands in the bedroom.
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1673 posts
Posted on 11/27/19 at 9:07 pm to
Low birthrate is a symptom and not the illness itself. There are socioeconomic problems that are the real RISK.
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