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re: Updated: Woman gets partially sucked out of airplane window **1 Passenger has died
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:14 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:14 pm to East Coast Band
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Youtube audio from ATC re: Southwest flight
Everyone remained calm.
What's legit is how quickly they're like "SW 1380 do whatever you need, we'll take care of everything else."
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:19 pm to northshorebamaman
Upvote a million
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:26 pm to East Coast Band
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Youtube audio from ATC re: Southwest flight
That pilot has very large cajones. Unbelievably calm...even saying "good day", "thanks for the help"...wow.
Not sure if I'm reading more into this, but the controller tells her to be aware of downtown around 2:45. I'm wondering if he's saying "if you come crashing out of the sky don't hit a building."
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:29 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:not according to the fricking OT.
That pilot has very large cajones. Unbelievably calm...even saying "good day", "thanks for the help"...wow.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:35 pm to Napoleon
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Yep. I'm justified for never wanting to sit over the wings.
1) It didn't impact over the wing, it was a bit back
2) If you don't like flying, over the wing is the best place to be.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:36 pm to BillBrosky
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Window seats not sold to minors.
Link?
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:36 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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but the controller tells her to be aware of downtown around 2:45. I'm wondering if he's saying "if you come crashing out of the sky don't hit a building."
They were at 3,000 feet and taking a far from standard approach, especially in the high-traffic NE corridor.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:48 pm to BillBrosky
My 9yo son had the window during our flight to DC.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:13 pm to Chucktown_Badger
In all honesty, as a general rule, the wing is not one of the best places to sit.
-roughest area in plane to sit as most air turbulance is directed into the aircraft in the wing area.
-survival during any engine issue is reduced since all shrapnel will be even or back of the engines, dependant upon airspeed.
- most of an aircrafts fuel is held in the wings. Thus, in a crash, any fuel that ignites will come spilling back into the wing area and rearward...not good.
Safest place to sit on a plane, all other things being equal, is just in front of the wing attach area. Unfortunately this did not work for "Goose" , but normally it's your best bet.
-roughest area in plane to sit as most air turbulance is directed into the aircraft in the wing area.
-survival during any engine issue is reduced since all shrapnel will be even or back of the engines, dependant upon airspeed.
- most of an aircrafts fuel is held in the wings. Thus, in a crash, any fuel that ignites will come spilling back into the wing area and rearward...not good.
Safest place to sit on a plane, all other things being equal, is just in front of the wing attach area. Unfortunately this did not work for "Goose" , but normally it's your best bet.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:52 pm to AUTimbo
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n all honesty, as a general rule, the wing is not one of the best places to sit.
When the plane lands in the Hudson you have a front row seat on the wing though.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 4:07 pm to castorinho
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That pilot has very large cajones. Unbelievably calm...even saying "good day", "thanks for the help"...wow.
not according to the fricking OT.
I am with the OT, what did you expect a pilot to do in this situation, scream I cant do this, were all going to die? She had a lot of experience, she followed procedures as you had been trained to do, and practiced. She did a good job, but it is not unreasonable to believe the outcome would have been the same with any other similarly qualified pilot in the seat, this type of situation is what they train for.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 4:33 pm to EA6B
Definitely Wood have back then
Posted on 4/18/18 at 4:34 pm to Tigeralum2008
Video from inside cabin - Youtube
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:08 pm to Golfer
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They were at 3,000 feet and taking a far from standard approach, especially in the high-traffic NE corridor.
I get that, but he told her to watch downtown. There aren't 3000 foot buildings in downtown Philly.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:10 pm to AUTimbo
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-roughest area in plane to sit as most air turbulance is directed into the aircraft in the wing area.
This is simply not true. The area over the wings experiences the least turbulence.
quote:
Traveling comes with its own set of obstacles—rising plane tickets, TSA checkpoints, luggage that just won’t zip closed—and you can’t control any of them. But there is a way to ensure your ride is a little smoother than the process of getting to your seat. While most experts agree that seat choice simply doesn’t matter that much on a plane, some passengers may find that their ride feels a lot smoother if they sit near the wing. This may be especially true for those who are prone to airsickness. But why is the smoothest ride near the wing?
We can thank physics and the wonders of aeronautical engineering. “The smoothest place to sit is over the wings, nearest to the plane’s centers of lift and gravity,” explained Patrick Smith on the Ask the Pilot site. What that means is that as wind, airflow, torque, and gravity all exert force on the plane as it flies through the sky, the plane “rotates” (in the physics sense of the word) around its center of gravity.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:14 pm to EA6B
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I am with the OT, what did you expect a pilot to do in this situation, scream I cant do this, were all going to die? She had a lot of experience, she followed procedures as you had been trained to do, and practiced. She did a good job, but it is not unreasonable to believe the outcome would have been the same with any other similarly qualified pilot in the seat, this type of situation is what they train for.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't think it's crazy to expect to hear some tension, anxiety, etc in a situation such as that...which 99.99% of commercial pilots never experience. Please note, this is by no means saying that other pilots don't have balls of steel, just that it has been proven this one surely does.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:08 pm to Tigeralum2008
Man, that's a shitty video.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:12 pm to List Eater
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thought myth busters debunked this
I think they tested that a small hole in a plane would cause a larger hole to blow open because of pressure differences.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:40 pm to Relham10
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I think they tested that a small hole in a plane would cause a larger hole to blow open because of pressure differences.
Does anyone remember this incident, was also a 737, happened a 24,000 feet, they were able to make a emergency landing 13 minutes later. Lost a flight attendant, everyone else was buckled in. The first officer flying was also a woman.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:02 pm to Relham10
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I think they tested that a small hole in a plane would cause a larger hole to blow open because of pressure differences.
In congested areas, aircraft typically must maintain 1,000 above the highest obstacle. In Philly, that would probably be the Comcast building which is 1,121'.
So minimum altitude would be 2,121'. Regulations vary slightly but that was probably why ATC gave her the caution.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 7:10 pm
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