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re: Update on the proposed City of St. George
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:14 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 6/24/18 at 12:14 pm to beerJeep
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I didn’t have to google. I just know the definition of soliciting because I’m not a stupid shite like yourself.
Go yell at your neighbors kids for playing too loudly in their back yard, you crotchety old fricko
Lol. Good lord man,it ain't that serious. I was mostly kidding around. Some of you fellers, need to get laid and chill the frick out.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:04 pm to lsunurse
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Why would they move to Baton Rouge, from out of state no less, when they could likely make a lot more (with a much better quality of life) in their same field (even if that is oil and gas) in another state (like Texas?)?
Because they got a good job offer in Baton Rouge before they got one in Texas or somewhere else? There are a lot of people who come from out of state for engineering jobs.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:55 pm to the paradigm
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No way would I ever consider sending him to any of the public middle schools.
I will never understand this. Sure, there are some bad schools, but many are not. Granted some things may have changed in the past few years, but our last child graduated from high school 3 years ago and they have all gone on to successful college careers and those old enough have started great jobs. We had no major complaints about the public school options, both neighborhood schools and the gifted and talented programs (all went in to HS at BRMHS or McKinley). We lived in the proposed St George area (Lake at Whit Oak) until we moved a couple of years ago and were opposed to creating the new city then and remain opposed today.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 1:57 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I will say it. Baton Rouge will never succeed with it's current racial demographics.
It's not race, it's the number of poor, poorly educated that is way too high and very unproductive citizens.
Yes, many if not most are black; but there are very intelligent and productive blacks too.
The problem is too many educated, productive families migrate out of our parish. Hopefully SG will help keep them home and attract transplants.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 2:38 pm to islandtiger
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I will never understand this. Sure, there are some bad schools, but many are not. Granted some things may have changed in the past few years, but our last child graduated from high school 3 years ago and they have all gone on to successful college careers and those old enough have started great jobs. We had no major complaints about the public school options, both neighborhood schools and the gifted and talented programs (all went in to HS at BRMHS or McKinley). We lived in the proposed St George area (Lake at Whit Oak) until we moved a couple of years ago and were opposed to creating the new city then and remain opposed today.
Sorry, but I taught in a Baton Rouge middle school (Broadmoor) for six years, and my stepson attended one (Woodlawn) and I know better. They're terrible. The only reason you didn't experience it is because your kids went to the gifted/talented schools. What about those who don't have that option? I live in the Lake at White Oak as well, and no way will I ever consider sending my son to an EBR public middle school.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:02 pm to the paradigm
The St G movement wont improve anything long term. Gotta change more than boundary lines.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:06 pm to islandtiger
If every school was like BRHM and if most of the students had good discipline and were serious about learning there would be no controversy.
Sure you had a great experience, but you do realize not every kid qualifies to get into a gifted or magnet program and even if they did there's not enough room for everyone.
Sure you had a great experience, but you do realize not every kid qualifies to get into a gifted or magnet program and even if they did there's not enough room for everyone.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:13 pm to seeinspots
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The St G movement wont improve anything long term. Gotta change more than boundary lines.
Actually I think just the opposite. It's a long term plan.
Initially the city has to get rolling. There will be some changes, but not that many. Folks will hardly notice.
The ISD is the Gamechanger, but even then it will take time to get things established. Public school kids will come over at first, but many in private schools won't. The SG school district will have to prove themselves. That will take time.
Once they do kids will start changing over more. Transplants will join the ranks. Developers will push the ISD to outsiders coming to the metro area.
I'm saying 7-10 years before we see the big change.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:16 pm to bigberg2000
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Glad I don’t live in that shite show anymore.
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Houston
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:19 pm to doubleb
I agree with you but I thoroughly believe there are structural changes that can be made to the school system if, instead of forming a city, work with the region as a whole to improve how schools are attended. St G won't fix anything. If the region as a whole isn't attractive to people St G will shrink along with the over all population.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:21 pm to seeinspots
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The St G movement wont improve anything long term. Gotta change more than boundary lines.
Much better chance of improving shite over the status quo.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:24 pm to seeinspots
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The St G movement wont improve anything long term. Gotta change more than boundary lines.
Perhaps. But I've been here since 1989, and during that time I've heard the same old promises over and over again. Yet instead of progression, I've seen regression. Time to try something new. If it fails, it fails, but it's better than just sitting around doing nothing and expecting things to change, because they won't.
For the most part, I've seen that younger folks with young children, or those who might have children in the future, are the ones most supportive of the cause. Older folks and single folks who are afraid of taxes going up, who don't have kids involved, are the ones opposed.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:30 pm to doubleb
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Developers will push the ISD to outsiders coming to the metro area.
Where will the jobs come from to support the development? Also, the proposed city of St G only has a finite amount of real estate to develop. Y'all are delusional.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:42 pm to the paradigm
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Older folks and single folks who are afraid of taxes going up, who don't have kids involved, are the ones opposed.
People (even ones with kids) are opposed for more reasons than that.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:52 pm to seeinspots
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I agree with you but I thoroughly believe there are structural changes that can be made to the school system if
We've tried bussing, we got away from the Feds, we passed a massive tax package twenty years ago and a lot of promises were made, but that didn't pan out.
What structural changes do you suggest? I suggest do like Central and Zachary and form an ISD.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:55 pm to doubleb
civic pride is far more important than people are giving it credit for
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:56 pm to doubleb
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Developers will push the ISD to outsiders coming to the metro area.
Looking at the map you are dealing with areas that are already devoloped and land that cant be developed. The proposed city cant grow much. Too much real estate in non flood prone areas outside of the proposed city to bother. So, where will this magical growth and all these magical dollars to support this magical idea come from? Schools, teachers, support staff, infrastructure, etc costs a lot.
And I dont want to hear "we pay ALL the taxes already" in the parish.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 4:57 pm to seeinspots
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Where will the jobs come from to support the development? Also, the proposed city of St G only has a finite amount of real estate to develop. Y'all are delusional.
Sure there's a finite amount of real estate, but there are large, undeveloped tracts out here.
Jobs are here now. Many who chose Ascension or Livingston work them. Poor schools forced them out of the parish and others coming to EBR chose them because of the schools.
I think delusional is the wrong term, I think visionary is better. Things don't have to be the way they are.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:19 pm to doubleb
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undeveloped tracts out here.
Those arent tracts. Their called flood plain.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:36 pm to seeinspots
La. Is mostly one big flood plain.
You adapt, you figure things out, and you try and build smart.
You adapt, you figure things out, and you try and build smart.
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