re: Update: NO murder charges in Breonna Taylor death.

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pitch this idea to the legislature

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sadly, if they weren't part of the problem, maybe they'd listen....

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schedule a meeting with your rep

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he's too busy defending the indefensible....

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The cops only returned fire because they were fired upon. What do you expect them to do? Just eat bullets?

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This was my point, if the officer didn't fire first, then what are they supposed to do, just be fired upon until they can see who is firing upon them?

That's how cops get killed. It's terrible that she was killed as a result of this, but it would be a different story if the cops fired first, which apparently they did not do.

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It embarrasses me that any accredited US university conferred a law degree on you. Your positions are consistently inane and ignore both the evidence and long-established legal principles.

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have you read my arguments in this thread?

i have stated the officers likely shouldn't be charged

i have stated that's b/c our system is structurally deficient and needs to be completely overhauled. "established legal principles" has no bearing on a corrected system because those principles are why we are in this mess in the first place

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The fact that an innocent bystander (if that term can be used here) died is not presumptive proof of any crime.

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was my quoted comment above in response to an allegation of criminal activity? no

what does "proof of any crime" matter?

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The police entered the residence on a valid warrant

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see here is the thing. i'm not arguing it was invalid

i'm arguing in a sane and fair system it would be invalid

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and they were fired upon

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not fully established and we'll never know if this is a true statement

again, in a sane and fair system, we would know. and if we didn't know (b/c the LEO didn't use their body cameras or purposefully "forgot" them), then the LEO would be held to account and punished for this behavior

see? difference in our current, structurally deficient system and what i'm actually arguing about

you keep arguing a straw man pretending that i'm giving some sort of level advice about our current, unfair and deficient system. i'm not

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because, like i said, the real issues are structural ones

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This suggests that the reason all these riots have taken place is because of structural issues? Do you honestly believe that is the case?

I also find it laughable that you think other portions, or segments, of law enforcement should be faultless. Do you think the segment that you represent is faultless?

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You can bitch about no-knock warrants, but the cops were working well within the law

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it's like, y'all can't read or refuse to do so

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You're acting like the cops executed her

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no, i'm not

your hyperbolic straw man was a nice try, though

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Background checks

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standard background checks, sure... we need to go further... with great power comes great responsibility, and I don't think its too much to ask that we get the absolute best of the best, and not scrape the bottom of the barrel...

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complete mental fitness evals

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a FULL psych work up? I doubt it... it ain't exactly cheap, but IMO, necessary...

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so from a legal perspective, are you okay with cops killing whoever is near an active shooter as long as they are fired upon first?

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That is not what happened. Nobody targeted Taylor. She was caught in crossfire.

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Fact still remains, the choices that lady made in her life found her in the place where she paid a price.

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Those people that died in the WTC on 9/11 all made choices that lead them to being in that building that day.


See how ridiculous that sounds?

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This suggests that the reason all these riots have taken place is because of structural issues?

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i'm not discussing "all these riots"

i'm discussing this LEO killing

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Do you honestly believe that is the case?

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for 100% of rioters? no

most couldn't even tell you what the word structural means

but i'm not discussing rioters or protesters in this thread, so i have no idea why that was brought up

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I also find it laughable that you think other portions, or segments, of law enforcement should be faultless.

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there are certain acts that should be basically error-free, with severe consequences for being wrong

and you will say, "but nobody is perfect" and i will say "then we should be very sparse in relying on those behaviors, then"

it should be so costly to engage in certain behaviors (that we assume are normal SOP in our current system), where they are only used in the most certain or extreme situations.